On Thursday, Alerus Financial (NASDAQ:ALRS) discussed first-quarter financial results during its earnings call. The full transcript is provided below.

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Summary

Alerus Financial reported strong first-quarter results for 2026 with a net income of $23 million or $0.89 per diluted share, driven by margin expansion and disciplined expense management.

The company highlighted its strategic strengths in balance sheet positioning, diversification, and talent acquisition, emphasizing growth in HSA balances and a diversified revenue model.

Alerus Financial's future outlook includes mid-single-digit loan growth and low-single-digit deposit growth for 2026, while maintaining a strong capital position and continuing to invest in organic growth and share repurchases.

Full Transcript

OPERATOR

Good morning and welcome to the Alerus Financial Corporation Earnings Conference call. All participants are in this and only mode. Today's call will reference slides that can be found on Alerus Investor Relations website. You can also view the presentation slides directly within the webcast platform. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions for analysts and institutional investors. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To answer your question, please press star 11 again. Please note this event is being recorded. This call may contain forward looking statements and the company's actual results may differ materially from those indicated in any forward looking statements. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward looking statements are listed in the earnings release and company's SEC filings. I would now like to turn the conference over to Aleris Financial Corporation's President and CEO Katie Larson. Please go ahead.

Katie Larson (President and CEO)

Thank you and good morning everyone. Appreciate you joining us today. With me today are Alerus CFO Al Villalon, our Chief Operating Officer Karen Taylor, our Chief Banking and Revenue Officer Jim Collins, and Alerus Chief Retirement Services Officer Forrest Wilson. We delivered a strong first quarter to begin 2026 and more importantly, one that demonstrates the progress we've made repositioning Alerus for higher quality, more durable performance. For the quarter we reported net income of 23 million or $0.89 per diluted share. Return on average assets was 1.79% and return on average tangible common equity was approximately 22%. These results were driven by margin expansion, resilient fee income, disciplined expense management and continued improvement in asset quality. We view this quarter as a clear validation that the strategic actions we've taken are translating into tangible financial outcomes. Our results reflect three structural strengths shaping the business first, our balance sheet is fundamentally better positioned. Margin expansion in the quarter reflects disciplined funding management, the benefits of balance sheet actions taken last year and a funding mix that continues to differentiate our franchise growth in highly valuable Health Savings Account (HSA) balances sourced through our benefits services platform highlights the uniqueness of our funding model with nearly a quarter of the deposits sourced from our integrated and synergistic business lines. Second, diversification continues to matter. More than 40% of our revenue are fee based capital light and recurring. Our retirement benefits services and wealth advisory fee streams provide stability across interest rate and market cycles even as asset levels and market conditions fluctuate. Underlying engagement, client activity and long term profitability across these businesses remain solid. Third, we continued our success in recruiting high quality talent, adding team members in key markets in Wisconsin and Arizona, in addition to progressing towards our goal of doubling the number of wealth advisors across the franchise. Impressively, we've maintained discipline on expenses while continuing to make these selective investments in technology and growth initiatives. Our focus remains on scalability, ensuring that as revenue grows, returns improve in a sustainable way. During the quarter, we remain focused on relationship driven growth. Commercial and private banking continues to be an area of focus with year over year C&I growth exceeding 10%, supported by healthy pipelines and strong client engagement. At the same time, we've remained intentional in reducing exposure to lower return and higher volatility segments of the balance sheet. The mix shift is improving risk adjusted returns and strengthening the overall profile of the loan portfolio. On the funding side, deposit trends reflect the value of our diversified platform. Growth in core deposits, including commercial and private banking relationships in addition to our synergistic deposits reinforces the strategic advantage of our integrated business model. As a result, the loan deposit ratio improved to under 93%, asset quality improved meaningfully during the quarter, non performing assets declined and criticized. Loan balances continued to trend lower and we made significant progress resolving previously identified credit issues. During the quarter, we charged down a non accrual and well reserved C&I credit related to a long standing client relationship negatively impacted by changes in government funding. This was a single event and not reflective of broader portfolio trends. We also made substantial progress in moving closer to resolution on our largest remaining non accrual relationship which represents approximately 65% of total non accrual loans. As a result of portfolio improvement and credit resolution activity, we recorded a reserve release of 4.9 million during the quarter while maintaining an allowance for credit losses of 1.25% of total loan. Taken together, these actions underscore the strength of our credit discipline and our commitment to proactive risk management. Our capital position remains strong. Tangible book value per share increased to $18.15 and tangible common equity to tangible assets improved to nearly 9%. Capital ratios remain comfortably below regulatory requirements. During the quarter, we also repurchased $6 million of common stock while continuing to return capital through dividends. Our approach to capital allocation remains disciplined and balanced, supporting growth while returning excess capital to shareholders. Most importantly, the company's trajectory remains highly positive. The underlying fundamentals of the business our talented team, balance sheet positioning, diversified revenue model, credit discipline and operating focus are stronger than they have been at any other time in our nearly 150 years as an institution. We remain focused on disciplined growth continued execution and delivering sustainable long term value for our shareholders. And with that I will turn the call over to AL to walk through the financial results in more detail.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Thanks Katie. Let's start on page nine of our Investor Deck which is posted on the Investor Relations section of our website. In the first quarter we delivered a strong start to 2026 and demonstrated the earnings power of the franchise. Following the balance sheet reposition completed late last year, we generated adjusted diluted EPS of $0.89 inclusive of $6 million of share repurchases during the quarter. Our results reflect continued core net interest, margin improvement, disciplined expense management and the benefit of our diversified business model. With non interest income representing just over 40% of total revenue. Profitability remains strong with an adjusted return on average tangible common equity of 21.96% and an adjusted return on average assets of 1.79%, improving 17 basis points from the prior quarter. Tangible book value per share increased 3.4% linked quarter to $18.15 and our tangible common equity ratio improved to 8.85%, underscoring continued capital generation. Turning to the balance sheet, we remain well positioned to support organic growth. Deposits increased 3.7% on a period end basis and our loan to deposit ratio improved to 92.8%. In addition, we continue to maintain robust liquidity approximately $2.7 billion, providing flexibility to fund loan growth, manage through market volatility and continue returning capital through dividends and share repurchases. Let's turn to page 16 to talk about our earning assets at quarter end, loans were relatively stable versus the prior quarter. We continue to proactively reallocate capital to full relationships primarily in C&I and private banking. Excluding discontinued rationalization, end of period loans would have grown modestly. Overall, our loan mix remains balanced at approximately 50% fixed and 50% floating on investments. We continue to benefit from the strategic portfolio reposition executed in the fourth quarter. During 4Q, we sold $360 million of available for sale securities representing over two thirds of total AFS securities at year end 2025. This restructuring improved the overall average investment portfolio yield by 139 basis points from 4Q25 to 3.84% in 1Q26 and has been meaningful contributor to margin expansion. Currently, our balance sheet remains positioned slightly liability sensitive on a rate cut, we will see slight margin improvement and vice versa on a hike. Turning to deposits on page 17, our funding profile continues to strengthen and remains a key contributor to margin expansion and balance sheet flexibility. On a period end basis total deposits increased 3.7% from the prior quarter reflecting growth across both public funds and core client deposits. Importantly, we continue to see favorable mix improvement and operated during the quarter with only $8 million of broker deposits. Non interest bearing deposits increased 6.2% linked quarter and now represents approximately 19.7% of total deposits. This shift meaningfully supports our cost of funds and improves the durability of our funding base. The quarter over quarter increase in deposits was driven by seasonal public fund inflows as well as steady growth from commercial and private banking clients. We are particularly pleased by the continued stability of our core deposit franchise which reflects core operating and treasury management relationships rather than rate sensitive behavior. As a result of deposit growth and selective loan originations, our loan to deposit ratio improved to 92.8% providing additional on balance sheet liquidity and positioning us well to continue to support organic loan growth going forward without relying on higher cost wholesale funding. Overall, our deposit franchise remains a competitive advantage supporting loan growth and providing flexibility as we navigate the evolving rate environment. Turning to page 18, net interest income remained stable at $44.9 million. Reported net interest margin expanded 8 basis points to 3.77%. A new post IPO high purchase accounting accretion contributed approximately 25 basis points in the quarter. Excluding accretion, core margin was 3.52% representing a 35 basis point improvement from the core margin in the fourth quarter. Drivers of the core margin improvement included a 21 basis point decline in the total cost of funds to 1.97% and a higher portfolio yield of 3.84% following the fourth quarter balance sheet repositioning. In addition, strong new business margins across both loans and deposits supported continued margin momentum. New loans were originated at average rates in the low to mid 6% range while new deposits were in the low to mid 2% range. Turning to page 19, adjusted fee income excluding the balance sheet repositioning and other one time items declined 3.2% from the prior quarter primarily due to lower swap fee revenue. Importantly, fee income continue to represent over 40% of total revenue demonstrating the value of our diversified model in a dynamic rate environment. Let's turn to page 20 for additional detail on fee income. Turning to banking services Fee income adjusted banking fees declined modestly from the prior quarter primarily driven by lower swap revenues. We do not include swap revenues in guidance due to inherent variability and client driven timing. Importantly, our core transaction based fees remain stable supported by continued activity across our commercial and consumer client base. Mortgage fee income increased over 130% from the prior year driven by increased originations, improved gain on sale margins and a higher valuation of mortgage servicing rights. While originations remain seasonally lower. Economics per loan improved, demonstrating our ability to generate solid fee contribution even in a muted volume environment. On page 21 I'll provide highlights for retirement and benefit services. Total revenue increased to $17.4 million up 0.8%. Linked quarter assets on administration and management declined 5.9%. It is important to note this change had and expected to have minimal impact on revenues as the revenue was replaced with new partnership onboarded during the quarter. Synergistic deposits within retirement within the tire in segment increased 2.3% in the quarter. Health Savings Account (HSA) deposits grew 7.1% to approximately $218 million and continued to be a particularly attractive funding source carrying an average cost of roughly 10 basis points. Turning to page 22 and Wealth Advisory Services revenue in the quarter was $7.2 million on a LIN quarter basis. Revenue declined a modest 2.7% primarily driven by market related pressure on asset values as client retention remained strong. Assets under administration and management decreased 1.2% from the prior quarter reflecting broader market performance during the period. From a fee mix standpoint, the decline was evenly split between asset based and transaction based revenue consistent with lower market levels and typical first quarter seasonality. Turn to page 23. Our expense discipline continued to translate into positive operating leverage during the quarter. Reported non interest expense declined 2.9% on a linked quarter basis reflecting lower incentive compensation as both mortgage activity and banking production were seasonally lower. Importantly, this decline was achieved while we continue to invest in the franchise. The increase in professional fees during the quarter was driven by the reclassification of certain vendor services previously recorded within business services and technology rather than incremental new spend. Overall expense trends remained well controlled and we continue to demonstrate the scalability of our operating model as revenue growth outpace expense growth in the first quarter. This discipline supports both near term profitability and our ability to invest selectively in growth initiatives without compromising returns. Turning to page 24, asset quality improved meaningfully while net charge offs were 71 basis points. The increase was driven primarily by single $6.4 million charge off on one previously identified CI relationship that had previously been placed on non accrual. This charge down relationship still has remaining reserves of 78%. Importantly, non performing assets declined $15.4 million linked quarter and criticized loans were down 43% year over year. We recorded a $4.9 million reserve release primarily driven by lower loan balances and an improved mix. Despite the continued positive trends, we maintain reserve level above the industry at 1.25%. On page 25. Capital and liquidity remained strong. Tangible common equity to tangible assets improved to 8.85%. Intangible book value per share increased to $18.8.15. We continue to return capital shareholders through both our quarterly dividend and $6 million of share repurchases at an average price of $23.90 while maintaining substantial liquidity to support organic growth. Turning to page 26, our 2026 guidance has improved and reflects continued discipline and growth, continued disciplined growth and positive operating leverage. We expect the following loans to grow at a mid single digit rate for the full year despite more than $400 million of contractual maturities. Deposits to grow in the low single digits we have ample liquidity to support loan growth in excess of deposit growth. A net interest margin of approximately 3.55% to 3.65% for 2026 in the second quarter we expect about 20 basis points of contractual purchase accounting accretion Also for additional context, the exit rate of our net interest margin was approximately 3.65% for the month of March. Adjusted non interest income to grow in the mid single digits driven by continued growth in our wealth and retirement businesses. Consistent with prior guidance, swap fee income is not included. Given variability, total net revenue growth in the mid single digits with non interest expense growth in the low single single digits will continue to support positive operating leverage. We do expect second quarter nontrivial expenses to be slightly higher due to a seasonal uptick in mortgage and banking production along with proved equity markets on our wealth division which will push incentives higher. Full year return on assets will exceed 1.25%. Finally, for each additional 25 basis point cut in rates, we expect net interest margins to improve roughly 3 to 5 basis points. In summary, our first quarter performance demonstrates that the earnings power of the franchise is taking flight and we believe Alaris is Well positioned for 2026 and beyond to reach new heights. With that, I'll now open it up for Q and A.

OPERATOR

Thank you. Keep in mind, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear that automated message advice and your hand is raised. We also ask that you please wait for your name and company to be announced before proceeding with your question. One moment while we compile the Q and A roster. The first question will be coming from the line of Brandon Nozzle of Harday Group. Your line is open.

Brandon Nozzle (Analyst)

Hey, good morning. Hope you're doing well. Maybe just starting off here on the retirement business. Can you just unpack the decline in plan participants in AUA this quarter and help us understand why is revenue neutral as you pointed out in the release. Yeah. Brendan is Forrest Wilson. Thanks for the question. I can tell you since I got here, we've been putting emphasis on a much more disciplined and aggressive approach to our growth strategy. Really scrutinizing the mix of business that we take on more closely than ever. And specifically looking at profitability, operational leverage and complexity. In this past quarter, we were able to exit a large low margin client that it was a legacy relationship that had significant assets but generated limited revenue relative to the size and added kind of disproportionate operational complexity for sure for our division, coincidentally, additionally.

Forrest Wilson (Chief Retirement Services Officer)

Hey, Forrest.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Forest, this is Al. Can you. We're getting some feedback here. Can you start over? Because you're sounding a little muffled.

Forrest Wilson (Chief Retirement Services Officer)

Yeah, sorry about that. Is that okay?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Still muffled.

Katie Larson (President and CEO)

That's okay. I can take it for us.

Forrest Wilson (Chief Retirement Services Officer)

All right. Thank you for the question. In regards to the drop in assets participants for the quarter, it was driven by the exit of a large lower margin legacy relationship and replaced with a new partnership that has much higher levels of profitability but lower levels of assets and participants.

Katie Larson (President and CEO)

Yeah. Is that microphone better? Sorry. That's better. All right. Sorry about that. Thanks, Katie. No problem.

Forrest Wilson (Chief Retirement Services Officer)

Yeah, I mean as Katie mentioned, so coincidentally we exited a large low margin client that had significant assets and we onboarded a very substantial new partnership that does have lower assets but is much higher, more simplified business, which is in line with our strategy. So all in all it was absolutely just an episodic event of this quarter, but does reflect, you know, a deliberate focus on us trying to achieve higher quality, more profitable business. But it happened in the same quarter and is largely a revenue neutral event between the two. Okay, all right, that's helpful color there. I appreciate it. Maybe moving on to loan growth and demand. Can you just spend a minute talking about what gives you confidence you'll still hit the mid single digit growth guide for the year, just given the softer start to the year. Yeah, this is Jim, Jim Collins. We're staying the course. Right. We started off a little slow on loan production, but we are moving out some investor CRE that doesn't fit our risk tolerance or is some risk rated loans that we don't that we're pushing out now. But our C and I pipelines are fairly robust in all markets except for our ag. Our AG is relatively flat, which is fine with Us we will still plan to hit single digit growth for the year, but we are still pushing out some credits for in 2026 in the investor CRE buckets. Okay, okay, that's helpful. I'm going to sneak one more in there just on the margin. Al, I think you said the exit margin in the month of March was 365 versus the quarters reported 377. Just help us understand kind of the evolution from the full quarter's reported number to that exit margin. Like what were the puts and takes there?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Yeah, I mean a lot of it had to be loan and deposit mix. So we did see really good mix shift, especially on the deposit side because we had good inflows there. We do expect lower purchase account increase in a go forward basis, hence why I want to give the exit rate there. So we're only anticipating 20 basis points of purchasing account accretion in the second quarter and it's probably going to step down from there because as we continue to see accelerated payoffs, that's far from the future into today. So those are kind of the main puts and takes. Our cost of funds did decline nicely too from the Fed cuts in the fourth quarter of last year and that was one of the big drivers along with the BSR.

Brandon Nozzle (Analyst)

Okay, thanks. Appreciate you taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. One moment for the next question. And the next question is coming from the line of Jeff Rulis of D.A. davison. Your line is open.

Jeff Rulis (Analyst)

Thanks. Good morning. Just circling back on that margin, Al. The just to be clear, the 355 to 365, is that, are you excluding accretion?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

No, that's, that's total reported numbers. That's for the full year.

Jeff Rulis (Analyst)

And you're, you're including your expected accretion in that figure.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Correct. With no accelerated payoffs for the remainder of the year. So we do expect purchasing accounting accretion to decrease as each quarter progresses.

Jeff Rulis (Analyst)

Okay. And the, you know I think you mentioned some adjustments in the March quarter, but that that would imply flat to down. Is that maybe just sounds like kind of margin compression from you know, going forward. And what's the, I guess the CA on that part? Is it just easing of deposit benefits? Thanks.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Yeah, no problem Jeff. So it is partially easing of deposit benefits. We did see a couple rate cuts at the late last year, but also too in the second and third quarters we typically see upflows of deposits, especially from our public funds. So that's going to put a little pressure on our deposit base because as we replace some of our Lower cost funding. With higher cost funding, they'll put a little bit pressure on there as well.

Jeff Rulis (Analyst)

Okay. And Al, in the first quarter, were there any interest recoveries in the margin that impacted the 377? Is that anything in there?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

No, there were none.

Jeff Rulis (Analyst)

Okay, got it. And then one other question is just to kind of back into the loan growth side

Jim Collins (Chief Banking and Revenue Officer)

maybe do you have production, you know, gross production in the first quarter versus Q4, it sounds like, you know, I heard the last commentary about, you know, pushing some credits out, but trying to get a sense for how that product. It sounds pretty good on a core basis. So anything on the production numbers that you can give us quarter over quarter from a, from a CNI standpoint, we had really solid CNI growth. I don't have the numbers in front of me per se, but we're driving mid market CNI growth fairly well with the full relationships. The CRE, some of the CRE that we put on the books 2, 3 years ago, that's what we're moving off the books. First quarter, second quarter. That's what you'll see moving off the books. And you'll continue to see the percentages of CNI grow quarter over quarter like you did last year when you saw year over year, 10% CNI growth. You'll continue to see that through 20, 26 and 27, as that has been our core focus the last three years. Would you say production in CNI was greater in the first quarter than it was in, in the fourth quarter? No, I think it was a little bit lower than it was in the fourth quarter. But I think the pipelines building the second and third quarter look very healthy. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for the next question. And the next question will be coming from the line of Nathan Reese of Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Nathan Reese (Analyst)

Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Hey, Nick. Al, Just going back to the margin discussion, you know, if you strip out the accretion that you mentioned the quarter, you know, that implies core loan yields are kind of 560 in 1Q. And to get to your margin guy, I think that would imply, you know, a decent step down in loan yields. But it doesn't sound like there's anything unique in kind of that core loan yield in terms of interest recoveries in response to earlier questions. So just trying to kind of jive the trajectory of loan yields, particularly within the context of what you mentioned, in terms of new loan production coming on the low to mid sixes.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Yep, yep. Thanks for that, Nate. I mean, basically just a little conservatism there, especially as we, you know, we still think our core margin will be in the mid-30s, you know, but as we continue, you know, as Jim probably could talk about this a little bit more too, but we are seeing competition pick up, especially in the deposit front. So the benefit of those deposit cost of fund decreases is probably behind us right now unless we see another Fed cut in the future because we are seeing more pressure on deposit costs in our footprint.

Jim Collins (Chief Banking and Revenue Officer)

Yeah, I would say in all markets, obviously all banks are focused on deposits just as we are. It's getting extremely competitive. It's been competitive the whole time. Everybody's sharpening their pencils. So that continues to tighten. Okay, that's really helpful, thanks. Maybe a question for Katie just in terms of maybe some updated thoughts on excess capital management. You know, you guys are building capital at pretty strong clips that, you know, even with, you know, some balance sheet growth returning, I think you're still going to be accruing capital quite nicely going forward. So just curious how you're thinking about maybe executing on buybacks as a more continuous capital management tool. Particularly just imagine your, you know, the valuation probably isn't quite where it needs to be or should be considering where you trade on a price tangible basis.

Katie Larson (President and CEO)

Yes, great question. Thank you. So from a priority standpoint, pretty consistent with what we've discussed in the previous quarters. Invest first and foremost in organic growth, but returning capital opportunistically, especially as you mentioned, when valuations are warrantage, continues to be a priority. We were active this quarter. We intend to remain active in our buyback going forward.

Jim Collins (Chief Banking and Revenue Officer)

Okay, really helpful if I could just sneak one more in on the wealth management front. Would just be curious to get an update in terms of kind of the traction you're seeing from some of the production related hires that you brought on over the last several quarters and just generally how you're thinking about that revenue line growing this year. Assuming we have some stability and equity market valuations over the balance of this year. Yeah, I would say, you know, we put on some hires end of last year, a couple more the beginning of this year. We're seeing some traction on new revenue from them and we have some additional hires that we're looking to hopefully hire on the balance half of this year. We've had solid retention of all clients as we put on that platform. If you recall, last year we've had, you know, the first quarter was predominantly just issues with the markets, but we should see generally good performance out of additional revenue Growth out of new clients as we're putting on new wealth advisors going forward. Okay, that's great color. I really appreciate it. Thanks everyone.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. Our next question will be coming from the line of Damon Del Monte of kbw. Your line is open.

Damon Del Monte (Analyst)

Hey everybody, hope you're all doing well today and thanks for taking my questions here. So first one, circle back on the loan growth. So it sounds like you still have some targeted CRE loans to kind of

Jim Collins (Chief Banking and Revenue Officer)

work off the balance sheet. So as you think about the quarterly cadence going forward, should we expect kind of like flattish balances here in the second quarter and then a nice jump in the third and fourth quarter to kind of get you to that full year target? I would look to that, yes. Okay. Okay, great. And then given the slower growth here expected in the second quarter, should we kind of model in a very modest provision, especially given the sizable release of reserves this quarter? Like, seems like you feel like you've right sized your reserve given the credit profile you have. So should we expect kind of a minimal provision that would just cover whatever charge offset you have?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Yeah, Damon, I think that's right. I mean, going forward, our provision is going to be driven by loan growth and really the macroeconomic factors.

Damon Del Monte (Analyst)

Okay. And so do you feel like the mid-120s is probably a good run rate for you guys over time absent any type of obviously macro deterioration?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Yeah, I mean, you know, when I look at our pooled reserve, we're north of one, you know, 110 to 120 I think is a fair range, of course, depending on what happens in the economy.

Damon Del Monte (Analyst)

Okay. Okay, great. And then I guess lastly on expenses, I think. Al, did you say two to three or. Sorry, low single digit growth for the full year off of last year? Yes. Is that correct? All right, great. That's all that I had. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And we have a follow up question from the line of Brandon Nozzle of Holiday Group. Please go ahead.

Brandon Nozzle (Analyst)

Thanks. Just looking at the mortgage banking segment, if I look at originations and sales like those are both seasonally down, you know, quite a bit, but the revenue was actually up sequentially. And I think you mentioned kind of MSR fair value benefits. Can you just size up, you know, how much of a benefit the MSR was this quarter?

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

Let me get that number for you. The other benefit too was that in our pipelines in the fourth quarter we did have the rate cuts affecting our pipeline. So we actually had some Mortgages in there that came in at higher rates allowed us to get bigger gain on sales. So I'd say that was a bigger driver for mortgage that quarter. Less impact from the MSR part.

Brandon Nozzle (Analyst)

Okay. Okay. And then one final one from me. I think you folks said in the prep remarks that you continue to make progress on that one large non accrual loan that is still kind of working through resolution. Can you offer a little bit more color on kind of where you are on that credit, how you reserved and kind of where ultimate loss content on that loan might end up?

Karen Taylor (Chief Operating Officer)

Sure. Brandon, this is Karen. We do continue to make progress currently negotiating a sale on that deal. We are getting more clarity around value as we go through that process. And so we actually decreased our reserve from about 17% in Q1 to about 8% in Q2.

Brandon Nozzle (Analyst)

Okay. All right, thank you for taking the follow ups. I appreciate it.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

And Brandon, just for close the loop on the fair value mark, we're just looking at right now a couple hundred thousand for fair value on the MSR mark.

Brandon Nozzle (Analyst)

Thanks, Al.

Al Villalon (Chief Financial Officer)

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. I will now be turning the call back over to Kayte for closing remarks. This does conclude our Q and A session.

Katie Larson (President and CEO)

All right, well, thank you everyone. Appreciate you all joining today. I just want to take this opportunity to thank our team first and foremost. The results that we discussed today and that you heard about today reflect our culture, our talent and our discipline across Alerus and we have built a stronger organization in a relatively short period of time. Very proud of how our teams continue to execute towards our long term objectives over the past few years. I think the consistency of our fundamentals is evident. This quarter represents another pearl on the string disciplined execution of our strategy that we've been articulating. Continued progress across earnings, power, margin, funding, capital and credit quality. I do want to mention that our overall credit quality has improved meaningfully. Trends in asset quality, criticized loans and non performing assets continues to move in the right direction and we do remain confident that the net charge offs will normalize towards our long term historical averages which compare favorably to the industry from a balance sheet and capital allocation standpoint. We are growing where we want to grow with solid momentum in the verticals that we've invested in. We remain focused on consistent execution and we feel great about the foundation we are continuing to build from the momentum of the company and we are grateful for all of the collaboration and hard work of our talented team members. Thank you again for your time today and for your continued interest in Alerus.

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