Commercial Vehicle Group (NASDAQ:CVGI) held its second-quarter earnings conference call on Tuesday. Below is the complete transcript from the call.

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Summary

Commercial Vehicle Group reported year-over-year revenue growth across all segments, driven by geographical and end market diversification efforts.

Adjusted gross margin improved to 12.9%, with a focus on operational efficiency and increased volumes aiding profitability.

The Electrical Systems segment saw a 15.8% revenue increase, driven by program ramps in North America and EMEA.

Debt reduction efforts saw total debt decrease by $14.6 million, supported by an at-the-market equity program and a sale-leaseback transaction.

Future outlook is positive, with increased revenue and EBITDA guidance for 2026, supported by new business ramps and expected market improvements.

The company is adding labor and capital to support growth, particularly in the Zoox program, which is moving to commercial production.

SG&A expenses increased due to higher incentive compensation, impacting EBITDA margins.

Management highlighted continued efforts on cost control, cash flow generation, and further deleveraging.

Full Transcript

Michelle, Investor Relations

And welcome everyone to our second quarter 2026 conference call. Joining me on the call today are James Ray, President and CEO, and Angie O'Leary, Interim Chief Financial Officer. This morning we will provide a brief company update as well as commentary regarding our second quarter 2026 results, after which we will open the call for questions. As a reminder, this conference call is being webcast and the Q2 2026 earnings call presentation, which we will refer to during this call, is available on our website.

Both may contain forward-looking statements including, but not limited to, expectations for future periods regarding market trends, cost savings initiatives and new product initiatives, among others. Actual results may differ from anticipated results because of certain risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties may include, but are not limited to, economic conditions in the markets in which Commercial Vehicle Group operates, fluctuations in the production volumes of vehicles for which Commercial Vehicle Group is a supplier, financial covenant compliance and liquidity risks associated with conducting business in foreign countries and currencies, and other risks as detailed in our SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to James to provide some highlights from our second quarter performance.

James Ray, President and CEO

Thank you, Michelle. Good morning and thanks to all those who joined the call. Please turn your attention to the supplemental earnings presentation starting on slide three. As we have highlighted on this slide, CVG delivered year-over-year revenue growth across all three segments. This reflects our ongoing efforts to reduce our end market concentration in cyclical North American Class 8 truck exposure through geographic and end market diversification.

While there are still macroeconomic uncertainties to monitor, CVG is hitting its stride as our new business wins are ramping, coincidentally with a recovery in our key end markets. During the quarter we delivered an adjusted gross margin of 12.9%, up 90 basis points compared to last year and 70 basis points sequentially from the first quarter of 2026. The continued year-over-year and sequential improvement in profitability was again driven by our focus on improvements in operational efficiency and the operating leverage we are seeing from improved volumes.

We have recently highlighted the growth in our Electrical Systems segment and that accelerated again with a 15.8% growth in segment revenues in the quarter. This growth has been driven by the ramp of previously mentioned programs across North American and international markets, particularly Zoox in North America and the ramp of our key wins in the EMEA region. This growth is going a long way to increase capacity utilization at our Aldama, Mexico and Tangier, Morocco facilities.

While we are adding labor to handle the additional volumes, we continue to see margin expansion in this segment. Another highlight in the last quarter was the continued debt and leverage reduction we delivered. Angie will give you more detail shortly, but the at-the-market equity program we announced and executed a portion of during the quarter is not only accretive but provides us additional capacity to continue to invest for growth opportunities going forward.

The at-the-market transaction combined with the sale-leaseback transaction on our Venur facility provided us with cash that we used to pay down total debt by $14.6 million since the end of 2025, facilitating a net leverage ratio reduction from 4.1 times at the end of 2025 to 3.3 times at the end of the second quarter. Our goal remains to bring leverage back down to the two times level over time. As we look ahead, we will continue to monitor potential macroeconomic uncertainty, but we are encouraged by the growth we are seeing across all three segments as we head into expected end market improvement.

Class 8 truck production is projected to accelerate throughout the year and we are also benefiting from the ramp up of new business across our three segments. We are focused on disciplined execution, driving operational efficiency and positioning CVG to drive further shareholder value going forward. Turning to slide four, I will provide more detail on the ramp of the Zoox program. As I'm sure you've seen, Zoox made a major announcement in June. They have locked in the design and are moving to commercial scale production.

As a result, they are preparing for large-scale manufacturing at their Hayward, California facility which will shift them from the trial and testing phase into fleet deployment. Zoox also recently announced they have received NHTSA approval to begin charging for their robotaxi services and will be rolling that out in Las Vegas in August. As a result of the expected Zoox momentum, we began adding staffing in Q2 and continue to add into Q3 at Aldama to support the production ramp and we'll be investing in planned incremental capital to support the ramp.

Also, as Zoox and other programs continue to ramp up, we are seeing further utilization increases at our production facilities in Aldama and Tangier helping fuel gross margin expansion. These state-of-the-art, low-cost facilities position us to support continued new business win ramps and drive further margin improvement throughout 2026 and beyond for the Global Electrical Systems segment. With that I would like to turn the call over to Angie for a more detailed review of our financial results.

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

Thank you, James, and good morning, everyone. If you're following along in the presentation, please turn to Slide 5. Consolidated second quarter 2026 revenue was $195.2 million compared to $172 million in the prior-year period. The increase in revenues was primarily due to increased customer demand in international markets and the ramp of previously awarded new business wins across all three of our segments. After challenges we experienced in the second half of 2024 and throughout 2025, we're encouraged that now we are seeing much better top-line performance and, as you'll see from the guidance James will share in a few minutes, we expect that trend to continue. Adjusted EBITDA was $5.4 million for the second quarter compared to $5.2 million in the prior-year period. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 2.8%, down 20 basis points compared to adjusted EBITDA margin of 3% in the second quarter of 2025, as higher SG&A expenses and foreign exchange headwinds more than offset improved gross margins. SG&A expense increased year over year primarily reflecting higher incentive compensation. Our long-term performance awards are tied to stock price performance, which has been favorable, while our annual incentive plans are benefiting from improved financial performance compared with the prior year.

To help offset these increases, we continue to tightly manage discretionary SG&A spending. Interest expense was $2.9 million compared to $2.3 million in the second quarter of 2025, driven by higher interest rates resulting from our refinancing completed in the second quarter of 2025. Net loss from continuing operations in the quarter was $8.7 million, or $0.25 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $4.1 million, or $0.12 per diluted share, in the prior-year period.

GAAP net loss for the quarter included a $3.4 million pretax warrant liability revaluation expense. Adjusted net loss for the quarter was $4.6 million, or a loss of $0.13 per diluted share, compared to adjusted net loss of $2.9 million, or a loss of $0.09 per diluted share, in the prior-year period. Adjusted net loss was impacted by higher sales and improved gross margin performance offset by higher SG&A and interest expense. Free cash flow from continuing operations for the quarter was an outflow of $1.4 million compared to an inflow of $17.3 million in the prior-year period, reflecting higher working capital investment to support the growth in revenues. While we are encouraged by the strong top-line inflection we're seeing, that also requires additional direct and indirect labor as well as capital spending for new business launches to support the revenue growth. We remain committed to driving operating leverage and free cash flow generation, but I believe it's worth noting the growth requirements of the business as the end markets recover. At the end of the second quarter, our net leverage ratio was 3.3 times, down from 4.1 times at the end of 2025.

We calculate net leverage as net debt divided by trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations, and the improvement demonstrates meaningful progress toward our long-term target of approximately two times. Turning to Slide 6, I want to highlight the year-over-year and sequential adjusted gross margin improvement we saw in the second quarter. Our actions to remove costs, mitigate transitory impact from macroeconomic and geopolitical developments, and position the business for the end-market recovery now emerging across our segments are beginning to show results.

These efforts have enabled us to support higher production volumes while also improving margins. Sequentially, we have expanded margins the last two quarters, resulting in adjusted gross margin of 12.9% this quarter, up 90 basis points year over year and 70 basis points sequentially. As volumes continue to recover, we remain focused on driving additional operating leverage through disciplined execution and operational improvement. Turning to Slide 7, I'd like to highlight our continued progress on our deleveraging efforts.

As previously mentioned, at the end of the second quarter of 2026, net debt to adjusted EBITDA was 3.3 times, down from 4.1 times at the end of 2025. This improvement was supported by both the sale-leaseback transaction announced in Q1 and the recently announced at-the-market equity program. During the quarter we generated $11.6 million in net proceeds from the ATM program. Combined with our sale-leaseback proceeds, these actions enabled $14.6 million of total debt paydown since the end of 2025 and demonstrate our commitment to cash generation and deleveraging.

They also provide improved balance sheet flexibility to support future growth and shareholder value. This is important because our June 2025 refinancing increased our average interest rate notably compared with our prior term loan. Our ability to pay down $26.2 million of the term loan year to date is accretive through reduced interest expense. Because the ATM proceeds were received at the end of the quarter, the related term loan paydown will further reduce interest expense going forward.

Moving to the segment results, starting on Slide 8, our Global Seating segment achieved revenues of $80 million, an increase of 7.5% compared to the prior-year period, with the increase primarily driven by increased customer demand in international markets, again showing the benefits of our geographical diversification. Adjusted operating income was $4 million, an increase of $0.9 million compared to the second quarter of 2025, as we delivered expanded margins on higher sales volumes in the quarter.

We also saw benefits from our recent footprint consolidation efforts in the Asia Pacific region. Turning to Slide 9, our Global Electrical Systems segment second quarter revenues were $62 million, an increase of 15.8% compared to the prior-year period, primarily due to the ramp of previously awarded new business wins in North America and internationally. Adjusted operating income for the second quarter was $1.7 million, an increase of $0.5 million compared to the prior-year period, primarily attributable to volume and product mix.

As production continues to ramp in 2026, boosted by the Zoox robotaxi program and the ramp of additional wins across the globe, we remain well positioned to accelerate overall segment revenue growth in the second half of 2026. Moving to Slide 10, our Trim Systems and Components revenues in the second quarter increased 21.1% to $53.2 million compared to the prior-year period due to higher sales volumes from increasing customer demand in North America.

As we've mentioned previously, this segment solely serves the North American market and is the most directly impacted by Class 8 production volumes, which were down 6% year over year in the second quarter based on ACT data. Despite that decline, we delivered strong year-over-year top-line growth driven by an improved product mix. Adjusted operating profit for the second quarter was $2.2 million compared to $0.3 million in the prior-year period. The increase is primarily attributable to improved volume leverage.

Taken collectively, we delivered strong revenue growth and gross margin expansion in the quarter. We are ramping new business wins and beginning to see end-market improvement. While we are investing to support growth and working capital in the near term, we are encouraged by the opportunities we see ahead for Commercial Vehicle Group. That concludes my financial overview commentary. I will now turn the call back over to James to cover our end-market outlook, key strategic actions, and a review of our 2026 guidance.

James Ray, President and CEO

Thank you, Angie. I will start with our key end-market outlook on Slide 11. According to ACT's Class 8 heavy truck build forecast, 2026 estimates continue to imply a 9% increase in year-over-year volumes. The big change since last quarter is that ACT is now forecasting another 9% increase in 2027 versus a prior expectation of a 2% decline. They currently expect strong growth of 13% in 2028, similar to prior quarters. We are showing you a more granular look into the quarterly ACT data and outlook.

Q2 2026 production came in as currently estimated at 68,000, with expectations for a further uptick in Q3 and Q4. Moving to our construction market outlook, based on recent commentary and outlooks from our customers, we expect the construction market to be up in the mid-single-digit percentage range, primarily driven by stronger industrial production and fiscal stimulus initiatives for 2026. And finally, we are including a new geographical revenue breakdown chart this quarter.

This chart highlights the success we've had in balancing our exposure to the cyclical North American Class 8 truck market and capturing growth opportunities globally through customer diversification and new business wins. We are excited about the increased volumes in the Class 8 truck market and look forward to supporting our Class 8 customers as they grow their business. Turning to Slide 12, I will share a few thoughts on our updated outlook for 2026.

As always, our guidance ranges are based on current macroeconomic trends, forecasted Class 8 truck build rates, demand levels in construction markets, and the ramp of new business. Based on our solid first-half performance, as well as the continued ramp of new business and the recovery we're seeing in end-market demand, we are increasing our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges. For 2026, we are increasing our revenue guidance range to $725 to $755 million, which now represents a growth of approximately 14% over 2025 results at the midpoint.

This remains supported by strong growth across all three business segments. Our increased adjusted EBITDA guidance range of $26 to $31 million represents a growth of approximately 60% over 2025 results at the midpoint of the range, reflecting the operating leverage on the gross margin line as end markets recover, offset by the expense pressures we're seeing in SG&A. Finally, we continue to expect to generate positive free cash flow in 2026, further supported in the quarter by the proceeds from our equity ATM program.

As evidenced by our recent actions, we continue to prioritize free cash flow for debt paydown, reducing interest expense, and driving net leverage toward our targeted leverage ratio of two times. Before I conclude, I'd like to highlight our ongoing efforts to drive additional gross margin expansion, control costs, and drive cash flow. We see continued opportunity to drive further operational efficiencies across the business, especially as our new business ramps drive increased facility utilization.

We are leveraging price and mix management to drive revenue while recovering costs associated with tariffs, freight costs, fuel surcharges, and material costs. We remain focused on tightly managing salaries and discretionary spending. Subsequent to quarter end, we executed a sale-leaseback transaction on our Dublin, Virginia facility, which generated $3.8 million in net proceeds that were applied against our term loan in Q3, further reducing interest expense.

Finally, I would like to thank all our Commercial Vehicle Group employees for their continuous efforts to drive shareholder value every day. With that, I will now turn the call back to the operator and open up the line for questions. Operator,

OPERATOR (Operator)

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. The first question comes from the line of John Franzrub with Sidoti and Company.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking the questions. I'd like to start with the revenue guide. Nice improvement on a year-over-year basis. I'm kind of curious, which segments was the largest upward revision in?

James Ray, President and CEO

Well, if you look at our percent versus prior year, Trim Systems and Components had the largest percent increase. Our global seating business, with the international demand that we saw, new programs, and other end markets internationally, had an appreciable increase year over year too. And then Electrical, 16% up year over year, which is really big for that business. So they all contributed a material amount to the year-over-year increase as well.

As you know, when you look at our guide going forward, all three are contributing a similar outlook.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Okay, so you're applying kind of the first-half pace of increase to the second half across all three segments, or maybe the second quarter to the balance of the year. Is that how I'm reading that, James?

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

This is Angie. Yeah, I think we are looking at the first half in terms of expectations for the second half. You know, we do see a little bit of a bigger ramp in Q2, but you'll remember in Q4 that tends to be a little bit of a lighter quarter for us, just with less production days.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And in that revenue guide it's roughly up $60 million. But, you know, I guess the incremental EBITDA didn't drop down maybe as much as I thought on that kind of revenue. Is there any particular reason for that?

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

I think on the EBITDA side, as we mentioned here on the call, we are still seeing some headwinds on the SG&A, in particular on our incentive compensation expense year over year. Our long-term performance awards are directly tied to stock price performance to align our management team and shareholders. So as we continue to see that performance in the second half, we will continue to see that expense be a little bit elevated. And I think probably on the whole of the year we're looking to be just north of that 11% range, maybe into 11.5% on a full-year basis from an SG&A percent of sales perspective.

James Ray, President and CEO

The other thing I would add too, John, is that we continue to mine opportunities on the gross margin line to offset some of this SG&A increase, and then longer-term we are focused on getting to 10% going into subsequent years. So that's our long-term target with additional gross margin expansion. You know, we see that fall-through coming down to EBITDA. The other thing I would mention too, John, is relative to the volatility and the uncertainty on the market recovery as well as exogenous geopolitical things, we're being somewhat cautious because things are changing very frequently.

Everything from constrained sea containers to move freight, which puts you in expedites, also tariffs, also fuel surcharges. So we're being somewhat cautious on that EBITDA line because things move back and forth, and as far as recovery goes, that does lag. So as we have impact to our input cost—those areas I just mentioned—and we go to get recovery from customers, there's a lag effect in that, normally by a quarter. So we're baking that into that outlook as well.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Understood. And since you brought it up, James, in your closing remarks you mentioned gross margin improvements and you had a slide dedicated to it. Also in the presentation you had, I think, you highlighted four key drivers. Which one of those drivers will have the most immediate impact in the near term?

James Ray, President and CEO

I would say the operating leverage because of the cost structure changes we made over the past several quarters and over the past couple of years. So we expect the thinning of our fixed as we see volume come through. The other item is product mix. Especially in our Trim business, we had a higher mix of larger-revenue items. And then the launching of new business, the pricing impact of new business launch as well as pricing and product mix for legacy business, in addition to areas where we have a little more price flexibility like in our aftermarket business where we have more promotional pricing versus our OEM business.

So pricing is a big factor. Product mix is a big factor. The volume leverage, and then recovery of the material economics—fuel surcharges, tariffs—and those items additionally add more opportunity for gross margin expansion.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Got it. And I hate to ask this last question, Angie, but can you just walk us through what's going on the tax line one more time?

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

Sure. From a tax perspective, we have been in a full valuation allowance on our U.S. deferred tax assets, and so we don't get to take any benefits for paying foreign taxes. So to the extent we are making money in our international jurisdictions, we pay about a 25% rate on that income. So we just don't get the benefits at the federal level. So that's why we see that expense sort of on the net loss.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Okay, thanks for taking my questions.

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

Sure. I was just gonna say it's pretty well in line with our 2025 10-K disclosures around tax.

John Franzreb, Analyst

Got it. Thanks again. Appreciate it.

OPERATOR (Operator)

The next question comes from the line of Joe Gomez with Noble Capital. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Joe Gomez, Analyst at Noble Capital

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

James Ray, President and CEO

Morning, Joe.

Joe Gomez, Analyst at Noble Capital

So I kind of want to follow up with John's question on the guide. Last quarter, you know, James, you talked about, you know, if the Class 8 forecast came in as expected, you'd kind of be at the high end of the previous range, which was, you know, $700 million and $30 million of adjusted EBITDA. You know, the forecast for at least '26 hasn't changed at all. And, yes, for '27 we've seen the increase for the Class 8 over the previous one. But maybe you could walk us a little bit more through there as to what you're seeing that would cause you to raise the forecast as high as you did for the rest of '26.

James Ray, President and CEO

Yeah, that's a good point, Joe. And primarily it's driven by non-Class 8 growth, the international seat business. If you look at the growth year over year with Class 8 truck volume in North America being down, it was pretty substantial. The Trim Systems business in Q2 was substantially higher, and that's product mix, new business that we've won, that we've launched, we're launching, that is in current ramp-up phase. And then in our Electrical Systems business we actually had pretty significant growth in our EMEA business.

And Zoox is starting to ramp now. They seem to be on their plan for their volume production. We were somewhat cautious with a new customer, new vehicle, new end market in our outlook before. But now we see all of the leading indicators pointing toward them achieving their planned ramp to get to 100 vehicles per week. And we're in constant dialogue with all of our key customers. Our Class 8 customers drive a large portion of our business, and they expect increases starting in Q3 more than they had in Q2.

And that's reflected in the ACT outlook, but also in our schedules. Again, ACT is a guidepost we use for outlook, but some of our customer schedules that are specific to certain models and certain customers could have a higher increase than what ACT is projecting at an aggregate level.

Joe Gomez, Analyst at Noble Capital

Okay, great. Thanks for that. I appreciate it. And just on the new business, maybe you could talk a little bit about what the environment looks out there now for new awards. Not just ramping awards that you won previously, but what the kind of business cycle looks like and award cycle is looking in the second quarter, what you're seeing looking in the third and fourth quarter in terms of new business to go out and get, and hopefully get awards and win for awards.

James Ray, President and CEO

Yeah, we target on average about $100 million a year in new business wins. Obviously the vehicle cycle and sourcing cycles, you know, that could go up or down either way. And I would say through the first half of this year, we're on track based on what we've currently booked and what our outlook is from a pending award standpoint where we've already quoted. And then there's additional opportunity funnels that we manage. And this is becoming more global in nature, Joe.

And we have some pretty big opportunities in EMEA, especially in our seating business. In North America, we're expanding beyond Class 8 in our Trim Systems business with more wins in power sports and non-Class 8 vehicles. So there's diversification there. So based on our outlook on the business and what we have in our funnel, we continue to see further diversification as these programs hit start of production and start to ramp in the coming years.

So the outlook right now is a pretty balanced outlook as far as diversification in the business, both regional and from an end market standpoint and across the business segments. So we're really feeling positive about the momentum we're building now. The key, obviously, is to manage the uncertainties, volatility, and variability we're seeing across the markets. With more diversification, you have more elements you have to track. And then the tough part is, you know, making the adjustments in your business—not just what you're currently producing, but how you're planning for future business.

So investments in working capital like inventory and managing payment terms for receivables, you know, that's soaking up some of our cash generation. But we still expect to be positive this year and we're managing all of those elements to maximize our positive free cash flow, to pay down additional debt, to get down to that two-times level. So that remains a key focus in the business, and the best way to get there is through diversification and new business wins.

As you know, pricing elasticity is more advantageous in the first portion of new wins. You know, some companies manage or measure vitality, and there's a certain part of the business, the revenue stream, that they expect with new business because you have more pricing flexibility. So that's another area that we're putting more focus on, which will also help us drive to a target mid-teens gross margin level that we're looking for in the coming years.

Joe Gomez, Analyst at Noble Capital

Okay, and then one last one for me. You guys did a great job at focus on reducing debt here. And you mentioned how the ATM proceeds came in at the end of the quarter and you just paid down another $3.8 million from the most recent sale-leaseback. So given all that, kind of what would you say the quarterly run rate for interest expense is now?

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

Yeah, thanks for that. Yeah, we continue to focus on free cash flow generation and paying down that debt. So we were happy to get that done during the quarter. We've been running around $3.5 to almost $4 million. I think in the second half we're looking more at $2 to $2.5 million per quarter on the interest expense. And as you mentioned, we'll be a little bit lower, maybe, than $2.5 million just because of that Dublin transaction that we've just done there.

And on the free cash flow topic, even though we've invested in free cash flow, we continue to see that we're being a little bit more efficient on that front. So despite the investment, efficiency is favorable year over year. We're at about 18.5% currently versus around 21% last year. So that's giving us some encouragement as well as we head into the second half.

Joe Gomez, Analyst at Noble Capital

Okay, great, thanks. I'll get back in queue. Thanks again.

James Ray, President and CEO

Thanks, Joe.

OPERATOR (Operator)

The next question comes from the line of Gary Prestopino with Barrington Research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Gary Prestopino, Analyst at Barrington Research

Good morning, James and Angie. Excuse me, a couple of questions. First of all, James, did I hear you correctly that the Zoox program volumes are running up to expectations? I think you said in 2026 you were going to have about 2,500, going to 7,500, then 10,000 in 2028. Am I hearing that right?

James Ray, President and CEO

Yeah, that's correct.

Gary Prestopino, Analyst at Barrington Research

Okay, so there's no change in that. Okay.

James Ray, President and CEO

I said not an appreciable change based on what we know. Obviously, day to day and week to week, their production vehicle production schedules fluctuate. But the intent is the numbers that we had previously disclosed and they have told all their supply base to plan for.

Gary Prestopino, Analyst at Barrington Research

Yeah. Okay. And then again, I don't want to talk about guidance, but with the sales increase that you've projected and the flow-through of the EBITDA is just so minimal. And I understand that you're not kicking back stock comp into your EBITDA calculation, but it looks like your stock comp for six months was 2.5 million versus 1.7 million. So if that increases, I mean it just can't explain that low flow-through. So I guess the question I'm asking is, in the back half of the year, given the new business wins and what you're doing with Zeus, what what kind of, is there increased investment in growth on the SG&A line to accommodate this increase in sales that you're looking at?

James Ray, President and CEO

Yeah, I would take on the investment portion of it. From an SG&A standpoint, we are not forecasting significant headcount increases associated with the new business launching as it relates to SG&A heads. We are adding direct labor, indirect labor heads that are on a gross margin line. But the sales, engineering, commercial, purchasing, IT, all the back-office SG&A costs and SG&A costs in the business, we're not really looking at any significant increase to hit the increased forecast outlook as well as launch new business.

There is CapEx planned that we had in our plan, and there's some incremental to what's in our plan to bring on some of the business in international locations that we've won recently that have more of a near-term impact on our outlook, and that's also what's, you know, really increased it last year this time and earlier this year. Some of these programs we won recently and are already starting in production within 12 months, which is pretty quick for our business profile.

So that's it from an SG&A/CapEx standpoint from headcount-related, and I'll let Angie speak to the other part.

Angie O'Leary (Interim Chief Financial Officer)

Sure. So the stock-based compensation line, that's right. That's 2.5 million year to date. What I was mentioning earlier is actually our, we have cash-based long-term awards as well that are liability classified that we have to mark-to-market every quarter, which are also tied to stock performance. So that's probably the bigger side, which you don't see on a specific line item here in our financials, but it's driving some meaningful increases year over year, as well as the annual program, because as you might recall, last year obviously the performance didn't warrant much in terms of an annual plan result.

Gary Prestopino, Analyst at Barrington Research

Okay, thank you.

OPERATOR (Operator)

A reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star 1. Again, there are no further questions at this time. We have reached the end of the Q and A session. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. James Ray for closing remarks.

James Ray, President and CEO

Thank you all for joining today's call. We continue to execute and deliver. We are back to top-line growth across all three segments and delivered another quarter of gross margin expansion. Our focus on diversifying our end markets and improving our revenue mix is driving accretive growth. We are well positioned to drive further operating leverage as end markets improve and new business ramps going forward. We look forward to updating you on Commercial Vehicle Group's progress next quarter.

Thank you.

OPERATOR (Operator)

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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