On Thursday, Hormel Foods (NYSE:HRL) discussed second-quarter financial results during its earnings call. The full transcript is provided below.
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Summary
Hormel Foods reported strong second-quarter results with continued organic net sales growth across all segments, driven by foodservice and international sales.
The company achieved double-digit adjusted earnings growth due to margin expansion, improved manufacturing performance, and joint venture contributions, despite higher logistics expenses.
Hormel Foods reaffirmed its full-year guidance, expecting to trend towards the upper half of its earnings range, with top and bottom line growth anticipated in the second half of the fiscal year.
Operational highlights include strong performance in the foodservice segment, growth in international sales, and improvements in the retail segment, particularly within value-added poultry.
Management cited the benefits of strategic pricing actions, productivity gains, and restructuring efforts as key drivers of growth, while also announcing the appointment of a new Chief Technology Officer to enhance digital capabilities.
Full Transcript
OPERATOR
Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Hormel Foods Corporation Second Quarter Earnings Conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, May 28, 2026. I would like to turn the conference over to Jess Lomberg, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Jess Lomberg (Director of Investor Relations)
Good morning. Welcome to the Hormel Foods Conference call for the second quarter of fiscal 2026. We released results this morning before the market opened. If you did not receive a copy of the release, you can find it on our website hormelfoods.com under the Investor Section along with supplemental slide materials. On our call today is Jeff Ettinger, Interim Chief Executive Officer John Gingo, President and Paul Kinnaman, Interim Chief Financial Officer and Controller. Jeff, John and Paul will review the company's fiscal 2026 second quarter results and provide a perspective on the remainder of the year. We will conclude with the Q and A portion of the call. The line will be open for questions following the prepared remarks. As a courtesy to the other participants, please limit yourself to one question with one follow up. the conclusion of this morning's call, a webcast replay will be posted to the Investors section of our website and archived for one year. Before we get started this morning, I'd like to reference our Safe Harbor statements. Some of the comments we make today will be forward looking and actual results may differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the statements we will be making. Please refer to our most recent Annual report on Form 10K and quarterly reports on Form 10Q, which can be accessed on our website under the Investors Section. Additionally, please note we will be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures this morning. Management believes that doing so provides investors with a better understanding of the company's underlying operating performance. The presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Further information about our non GAAP financial measures, including comparability items and reconciliations, are detailed in our press release which can be accessed on our website. I will now turn the call over to Jeff Ettinger.
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Thank you Jess and good morning everyone. We delivered an excellent second quarter highlighted by continued top line momentum and meaningful improvement in bottom line performance. Our top line results remained a clear area of strength as we achieved our sixth consecutive quarter of organic Net sales growth. This performance reflects both the quality of our execution and the strategic positioning of our portfolio as we deliver these results. Despite a dynamic external environment, all three segments drove net sales growth with notable contributions from foodservice and international and momentum across certain key retail brands. As we have said before, our protein centric portfolio positions us well to meet consumer and operator needs and we continue to see that advantage translate into marketplace performance. During the second quarter, we also delivered impressive double digit adjusted earnings growth. In addition to our sales growth, earnings benefited from margin expansion, improved manufacturing performance and solid results from our joint ventures which more than offset higher logistics expenses during the quarter. This resulted in segment profit growth across all three segments and second quarter results that exceeded our original expectations. Encouragingly, the drivers of our second quarter results align with the growth levers we shared with you coming into the year. Pricing actions, mix improvements, productivity gains in our supply chain and benefits from our restructuring actions are expected to drive growth throughout fiscal 2026 and were central to our second quarter performance. Finally, our continued focus on enhanced collaboration across the organization allowed us to respond more quickly to an evolving environment. Given our strong first half results and improved visibility into the balance of the year, we have even greater confidence in our ability to achieve our full year plan. We are reaffirming our organic net sales and adjusted earnings per share expectations. Based on how the year is progressing and the underlying momentum of the business, we believe we are trending toward the upper half of our earnings range. However, we think that maintaining our current outlook is the right approach at this stage of the year and appropriately reflects near term dynamics. While we expect the back half overall to deliver both top and bottom line growth, we now see third quarter adjusted earnings to be more in line with the prior year. This reflects expected near term cost pressures including certain commodity inputs and higher logistics expenses as well as actions to rebalance some inventory levels which Paul will cover in more detail. While this affects quarterly cadence, it does not change the strength of the underlying business and is fully reflected in our full year outlook. In summary, we are very encouraged by our performance. We drove another quarter of top line growth, expanded gross margins and executed with discipline across the organization. We are confident in our ability to deliver our full year guidance and remain clear eyed about near term operating dynamics leaving us well positioned for the year. We believe these results reinforce both the strength of our portfolio and our ability to drive sustainable profitable growth over time. With that, I will turn it over to John to provide more detail on our operational performance.
John Gingo (President)
Thank you Jeff. Before turning to the quarter, let me start with what we're seeing in our business and across our consumer base. While consumers are under pressure and sentiment is low, food has remained resilient in recent months, particularly with growth in protein. Where our portfolio is well positioned, consumers and operators are prioritizing products that deliver clear value. Whether it's convenient kitchen shortcuts, substantial snacking solutions or affordable protein options, we are focused on helping consumers and operators make protein work better for them. Our approach to winning in protein is grounded in consistent execution, connecting with consumers in meaningful ways, delivering across usage occasions and meeting demand across a broad range of price points. We've stayed disciplined in how we price, innovate and partner with customers and operators and this strategy helped drive the consistent top line growth we delivered in the second quarter. In addition to this, as an enterprise, we executed well across our supply chain. The combination of protein led growth and disciplined execution is apparent across our results for the second quarter. Let's start with food service. This was another outstanding quarter with organic net sales growth of 7%. This marked our 11th consecutive quarter of organic net sales growth with broad based strength. Across this portfolio, brands such as Hormel, Natural Choice, Austin Blues, Jennie O and Fontanini delivered strong performance. Just as important, profitability improved in the foodservice segment as market based pricing went into effect and we realized some cost benefits across our supply chain. As a result, we saw gross margin expansion and a segment profit increase of 11% for the second quarter. In an environment where traffic remains pressured, we've been able to consistently deliver growth. Our solutions based portfolio combined with our direct sales force remained a clear competitive advantage in the quarter. Working closely with our operators allows us to move quickly and deliver solutions that meet their evolving needs. In this environment, we delivered solutions across both value and premium tiers which helped operators manage cost pressures while still differentiating their menus. Take pepperoni and our leadership in pizza toppings as an example. Pepperoni was a driver of top line growth in the quarter, with offerings spanning traditional to artisanal and mainstream to premium. The team continued to build on that momentum through innovation and at this year's International Pizza Expo, our team launched new Calabrian Chili pizza toppings, reflecting our ability to stay close to emerging trends that will help drive traffic. We believe this kind of innovative and anticipatory mindset will continue to propel our food service segment. Simply put in Q2, the Food Service segment again performed at a very high level. Turning to our international segment, we delivered a very good quarter with organic net sales up 5% and segment profit growing 20% versus prior year. These results reflect momentum across key markets and brands. China remained a driver supported by strong demand and the success of our localized strategy. Our branded export business, led by our spam brand also performed well, once again reflecting global demand and the strength of our portfolio. These results are the outcome of focused execution, disciplined investment of resources and a clear strategy to grow in the right markets with the right brands and products. And importantly, we see continued opportunities ahead now to retail Retail performed ahead of our expectations. In the second quarter we delivered 1% organic net sales growth, margin expansion and 13% segment profit growth. Performance was strong across several key areas in the business. Though opportunities remain and we are taking deliberate actions to address them. We continue to see momentum in our key growth platforms, particularly within value added poultry. The Jennie O and Applegate brands continue to benefit from sustained demand for lean protein forward offerings. Jennie O Ground Turkey delivered another quarter of double digit dollar sales growth and dollar share growth based on the latest 13 week Circana data ending April 19th. Applegate products have also continued to build momentum with a strong second quarter driven by frozen breaded chicken and chicken breakfast sausage. These platforms reflect how we are aligning with evolving consumer preferences and competing effectively across attractive growth segments. Another area of progress is the Herdes brand where we expanded distribution and benefited from innovation. The Salsa portfolio delivered encouraging dollar and volume consumption growth in the quarter and we are extending this authentic Mexican brand into new occasions through entrees, marinades and seasoning solutions. Taken together, these results demonstrate how we are strengthening our relevance with consumers and expanding our presence across the store. We also executed with a measured and data driven approach on pricing where we worked closely with our customers to implement actions strategically and in support of the overall health of our categories. Our second wave of pricing actions was fully reflected on shelf during the quarter and elasticities tracked largely in line with expectations reflecting this disciplined approach. That said, we have a few opportunities across our portfolio where we can do better. In some cases this reflects near term timing related dynamics including promotional lapping where we have good visibility to recovery. In other areas we are seeing more structural pressure requiring targeted actions to reposition those businesses. In these areas we are focused on improving competitiveness through price pack architecture, more targeted promotional strategies and sharper in store and e commerce execution. At the same time we are refining assortment, prioritizing innovation and ensuring resources are aligned to the highest return opportunities. Overall, we are encouraged by the progress in retail and remain focused on advancing performance across the portfolio. Stepping into supply chain, we delivered solid operational results across the enterprise with meaningful improvements across our vertically integrated turkey operations this was driven by favorable growing conditions and improved manufacturing performance. This operational excellence became a tailwind for both retail and food service profit growth during the quarter. During our Q1 call, we flagged freight and logistics as an area we were watching. While those costs were a year over year headwind, we improved execution in the second quarter to better navigate the environment and manage costs. This reflects the benefits of a more connected and responsive supply chain. Beyond this, logistics costs were further impacted by the increase in fuel prices which added incremental pressure during the quarter. When you step back, the progress we are making across the enterprise through our brands, our customer partnerships and our internal operations reinforces that the work to sharpen our strategy and strengthen our capabilities is translating into more consistent execution. We also see opportunity to move faster and unlock additional value, especially through technology. We were excited this quarter to welcome our first ever Chief Technology Officer to Hormel Foods, Don Monk. Don is an exceptional leader with more than 35 years of global experience and a track record of successfully implementing modernization of technology at large global organizations. The addition of a CTO to the leadership team represents an important step in strengthening our digital and technology capabilities and enabling greater speed, agility and impact across the business. What I've seen across the organization is a team that is motivated to win and focused on seizing the many opportunities in front of us. I've seen firsthand the power of our protein centric portfolio and the enduring demand for our brands and products. As we look to the back half of the year, I am confident in our ability to execute, navigate the environment and deliver on our commitments. With that, I will turn the call over to Paul to discuss our financial performance for the quarter and our full year guidance.
Paul Kinnaman (Interim Chief Financial Officer and Controller)
Thank you John. As Jeff and John noted, we delivered a strong quarter with solid performance across all three segments. Organic net sales grew 3% versus the prior year, marking our sixth consecutive quarter of organic growth. Cost of goods sold had multiple drivers throughout the second quarter. Pork and beef remained elevated relative to historical levels, but overall the commodity environment unfolded as anticipated. As John mentioned, logistics remained a year over year headwind for us in the quarter, but not as large as we expected. Given the timing of the geopolitical conflict, the second quarter saw only a portion of the elevated fuel pressures. Despite this backdrop, we more than offset discrete cost pressures through top line growth, market based pricing actions, favorable mix and ongoing productivity improvements. As a result, gross profit was up 7% versus last year and gross margin expanded to 17.4% up 70 basis points reflecting strong execution across the business. Equity and earnings increased 12% mainly driven by year over year growth from our Megamax joint venture. We completed an important strategic transaction in the quarter closing on the divestiture of our Whole Bird Turkey business. This move reinforces our focus on higher value, less volatile branded offerings. We recorded a loss on the transaction reflected in SGA which drove the year over year increase in that metric. Adjusted SGA was up just 2% reflecting good cost discipline. Adjusted operating margin expanded 80 basis points. Other income increased in the second quarter primarily driven by the investment gains within the Rabbi Trust. Excluding one time items, underlying performance was strong. Adjusted earnings per share was $0.40 up 14% versus prior year. Turning to cash flow and capital deployment, we generated $179 million of operating cash flow. Capital expenditures were $82 million. We invested in data and technology and infrastructure to support long term growth. We returned $161 million to stockholders through dividends fully aligned with our capital allocation framework. We remain committed to the dividend and are proud to have reached our 391st consecutive quarterly payout. We ended the quarter in a strong financial position with ample liquidity and a conservative balance sheet. Cash on hand sold $827 million, up $156 million since the end of fiscal 2025. This gives us flexibility to continue investing in the business while returning capital to shareholders. Looking ahead, we are confident in our position for the remainder of the fiscal year. We are reaffirming our full year net sales expectations of 12.2 to $12.5 billion and our full year adjusted earnings per share guidance of $1.43 to $1.51. We remain confident in this guidance range which incorporates a balanced and realistic view of the dynamic external environment. We are updating our GAAP earnings per share range solely to account for the loss on the sale of the Whole Bird turkey business. Let me walk you through a few key assumptions behind our outlook given our solid first half at the segment level, our organic net sales expectations remain unchanged including flat to low single digit growth in retail, mid single digit growth in foodservice and high single digit growth in international. As Jeff mentioned earlier, while Q2 came in ahead of expectations, we do anticipate some cost headwinds as we move into the third quarter and the back half of the year. First, we are closely monitoring pork and beef markets. We do believe our guidance range appropriately reflects potential second half volatility. Second, fuel is expected to remain a headwind and logistics costs are projected to pressure results on a year over year basis. Execution strengthened in the second quarter but the broader logistics environment remains dynamic. We believe we have plans in place to continue to mitigate these headwinds. Third, we are taking targeted steps to rebalance certain ambient inventory levels as we advance toward becoming an even more connected enterprise. This is a clear example of how integrated business planning is driving more forward looking decisions as we work through this adjustment. We do expect some near term cost pressure, primarily in the third quarter due to lower plant utilization. However, this action supports a more efficient operating model going forward. Finally, our effective tax rate is trending toward the higher end of our range overall, while we continue to expect bottom line growth in the second half, our current view for the third quarter is that adjusted earnings will be more in line with the prior year. Turning to our recent divestiture of the whole bird turkey business, there are no changes to our previously shared assumptions related to the transaction. We still expect about a $50 million reduction in fiscal 2026 net sales with minimal impact to the full year adjusted earnings. I want to take a moment to thank the teams who led and executed this transaction. Their speed, focus and thoughtful execution were critical in completing this work during the second quarter. In summary, the strength of our second quarter gives us the confidence to reaffirm our net sales and adjusted earnings expectations for the year. We feel confident in our ability to continue delivering results at this time. I'll turn the call over to the operator and we'll open it up for Q and A.
OPERATOR
Thank you ladies and gentlemen. We will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press STAR followed by the 1. On your touch tone phone you will hear prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press STAR Followed by the2 if you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Your first question comes from Leah Jordan with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Leah Jordan (Equity Analyst)
Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking our question. So you had really strong Q2 results today, but there's also been some investor concern around input cost, inflation and freight heading into the back half. So seeing if you could provide more color on the decision to reaffirm the guide today and what sounded like even greater confidence in that outlook.
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Oh, thank you Leah. This is Jeff Ettinger. I'll take that question and appreciate the chance to give more color on why we are comfortable with reaffirming our guidance range on both the top and bottom line. On the top line, clearly we're rolling along. We have six straight quarters of top line growth and we fully expect to keep it up in the second half, we are benefiting from our protein centric portfolio and our retail and food service balance. When it comes to the bottom line, we assess where we are at. And while we recognize that we're ahead at this point in the year, we feel we're still within the range. As I said in my comments earlier, we do believe we are trending to the upper half of the range at this point. Our ability to connect with consumers and operators coupled with solid management of our business does indeed make us even more confident that we can deliver on our year plan and our algorithm growth. You know, in terms of timing, we did mention some challenges in Q3 and that was covered in your question as well. We do see that quarter coming in closer to a year ago. We will be looking at a full quarter of higher fuel expenses where our commodity market assessment right now is running above our original plan in terms of some of the cost inputs. And we will be doing some inventory rebalancing and having some of the operational changes that Paul mentioned in his comments. These factors really don't change our view of the underlying strength of our business. And in reaffirming the range, we recognize that this still implies bottom line growth in the second half, which we now expect to come primarily in Q4. I mean, overall we're more confident than ever in our playbook, our growth levers for the year and our ability to deliver our fiscal 2026 outlook.
Leah Jordan (Equity Analyst)
That's all very helpful, thank you. And then just in a related follow up, I think one of the things that really came through on your comments this morning have been around productivity improvements and the strength and execution there. Just. And I know coming into the year, cost savings in SGA was a big initiative. Maybe you could provide an update around what's been done, what's still left. Is this the right level we should be thinking about as a percent of sales at this point? Or I guess just the outlook on the SG&A savings. Thank you.
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Sure. Again, this is Jeff. I'll be happy to talk with that. Really, our SGA reductions that we talked about are on track for the year. Our efforts, I should call them net-net. As Paul mentioned, Q2, SGA was up a modest 2%. But you know, prior to the efforts that we undertook at the end of the year, we were trending at a much higher level than that. And we recognize that to put us in the best position to have our bottom line be more reflective of the growth we are already enjoying on the top line, we needed to take some actions to address that. So there definitely have been some meaningful benefits from this work. We've had savings that have freed up capacity for growth objectives, we've been able to invest in new capabilities and talents and we've. And indeed we're also covering SGA headwinds such as wraparound incentives. So last year wasn't a very good year. This year, hopefully we will be paying out proper incent to our team. And I also want to add the reminder of what I talked about last quarter that some of the actions we took really didn't don't show up in the SG&A line, they show up in cost of goods. If they related to costs that would roll through the plants. So bottom line, we're really pleased with the results we've seen thus far this year when it comes to the SGA efforts and the steps we've taken on our structure and expense control seem to be working.
Leah Jordan (Equity Analyst)
That's all very helpful, thank you. I'll pass it on.
OPERATOR
The next question comes from Rupesh Parikh with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.
John Gingo (President)
Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. So I just wanted to start with the gross margin line. Better than expected performance in Q2. You did call out some headwinds to expect in Q3. So just curious, you know, how you guys would think that the outlook for gross margins in Q3 and then for the balance of the year. Good morning. Ripesh, this is John. Thank you for the question. Yeah, we did have gross margin progression across the business. Certainly, you know, if you look across the segments retail, food, service and international. I'll dig into retail a little bit since that's some of the driver in the change that we've seen. You know, retail had a strong quarter certainly after a softer start to the year. You know, if you kind of play through the P and L on retail, we could start with the top line where we do feel good about the consumer takeaway. We're seeing across the branded retail business. It certainly is a choppy environment. The consumer continues to be strained. But if you look at the health of our branded portfolio and you know how important that branded portfolio is to our mix, we did see good consumption. So we saw plus over 1% consumption growth in the quarter on a dollar basis, which was driven by 3% dollar consumption growth on our priority brands. So if you kind of flow that down then into the gross margin conversation, what you'll see is we had an improved profitability quarter in retail. No doubt we experienced the benefits of that second wave of retail Pricing. So we mentioned that in the call last quarter, that wave was announced at the toward the very end of fiscal 2025. So really with about a 90 day lag time on that pricing being in effect, it was the second quarter that benefited from it in retail. On top of that we did get the positive mix benefits. So if you look at the growth we saw on Jennie O Ground Turkey, Applegate, Black Label, bacon, those are all mixed drivers for us in retail. And then as we mentioned in our remarks, the manufacturing benefits in the quarter buoyed the business and that buoyed both food service and retail. So if you kind of step back and look at the drivers across the business, that manufacturing performance driven by Turkey notably helped both food service and retail margins. Pricing help both food service and retail margins. And mix was a positive driver for both food service and retail. Now that being said, on retail in particular, we still have work to do as we're heading into the back half. If you kind of look at the big picture, freight costs remain elevated, commodity costs remain elevated. We will see some impact on margins as a result of that rebalancing of inventory on select ambient items that Paul mentioned. And we still have work to do in retail on some of our brands that are not meeting our expectations. So in general we feel really good about the margin progression. Certainly still some work to do, but we feel very good about our overall progress. Great. And then my follow up question just on retail, so return to positive growth this quarter. Just confidence in sustaining the momentum for the back half of the year within retail. Yeah, thanks for that question too. So what I would say is we feel very good about our ability to continue to drive top line and consumption momentum on our retail business. In particular on those priority branded businesses. We've seen a number of quarters of good consumption growth driven by our priority businesses. We feel good about the pricing we've put in place. Elasticities are performing largely in line with our expectations. So those elements feel good. That being said, you know, there will be some noise in the back half on retail. If you kind of look at the changes we've made, which are important strategically for us in the long run in terms of portfolio shaping, you'll recall that we announced the sale of the majority of the Justin's brand, you know, largely a retail brand for us. We mentioned last quarter that we're stepping back from some private label snack nut business that was a big volume and sales driver for us and most of that whole bird turkey divestiture. Those impacts will be seen in the retail segment as well. So as we look at next quarter, as we look at second half overall, you know, the branded part of the retail business, we feel very good about the progression. We feel very good about our ability to drive consumption growth. There's but it will be a bit of a noisy quarter in terms of overall impacts on net sales and volume. Great, thank you.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from Heather Jones with Heather Jones Research. Your line is now open.
Heather Jones (Equity Analyst)
Good morning. Thanks for the question. I first wanted to ask about the turkey network manufacturing changes you made. I would assume you had higher volume this year. So I'm sure that helped. But were there other changes that you all made in that network that helped and would expect to continue going forward?
Paul Kinnaman (Interim Chief Financial Officer and Controller)
Good morning Heather, this is Paul. Thanks for the question. Obviously as John mentioned, there are some weather factors involved in there. As you mentioned, the volume improvements also helped putting the throughput through our plants. Overall that's really what the benefits that we recognize in the supply chain. And then those favorable growing conditions also helped in terms of feed conversion and the weights of the turkeys coming through our facilities. So overall really good manufacturing performance. This can be cyclical. Weather is never easy to predict and so that's one of the things we are watching and we've got included in our range guidance for the second half.
Heather Jones (Equity Analyst)
Okay. And then my follow up is if I'm interpreting Yalls commentary correctly, I just want to, I guess I want to make sure I'm interpreting correctly. So year on year within retail you should have seen significant benefit from you know, ground turkey pricing. Just the turkey portfolio in general. But it sounds as if there was broad based profitability growth across your including your non turkey business. So am I interpreting that correctly and you think those businesses have stabilized?
John Gingo (President)
Thanks Heather. This is John. I'll take that and try to build out a little bit. So you are right, we did have a very strong quarter on ground turkey. So we saw double digit consumption growth, share gain as I mentioned and good performance through the supply chain. That being said, we are seeing benefits across retail in terms of margin progression. And if you think about the pricing we took the multiple waves of pricing when we saw the market spiking in the second half of last year, a lot of that pricing was rooted in things that were more beef, pork, nut related where we saw increases in commodities. So that pricing flowing through has been really, really important. And then we've also seen mixed benefits coming from other businesses that we've driven disproportionate growth and that's been helpful. And our Supply chain has been performing well overall. You know, outside of Turkey, we had a good quarter.
Heather Jones (Equity Analyst)
Okay, perfect. Thank you so much.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from Puran Sharma with Stevens. Your line is now open.
Puran Sharma (Equity Analyst)
Good morning and thanks for the question and congrats on the strong results here. I wanted to start off and just better understand cadence and I think you gave us really good commentary on, you know, 3Q is expected to be roughly in line year over year. I'm just wondering when we look at that on a segment level basis, should we expect sequential pressure in retail or should we see some pressure in food service as well as we look from 2Q to 3Q?
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, thanks for the question. This is Jeff again. You know, as we did mention we had a few discrete items to consider going into the third quarter. You know the spike that really everyone has experienced in fuel costs. In our case we had six weeks of it in Q2. We'll have most likely all 13 weeks of in Q3. We have seen commodity costs volatility. Our outlook right now is that on the pork side would be a little bit more like last year versus we had hoped to see some more relief but that remains to be seen where that lands. And then what Paul and John both mentioned in terms of the targeted actions in certain plants to rebalance our inventories are why we're looking more at a kind of a flat year to year on the bottom line for Q3. We do think our growth levers are still going to be working for us overall. As John mentioned, there's some noise in retail particularly on the top line and net net, you know, we're probably looking at a gross profit margin that's not quite as high as what you saw in Q2, but that's still improved over where we were trending before. So I think we're, we have created some sequential improvements there and then on the food service side, you know they will see some of the detriment of some of these challenges afraid in the network as well. But they've been on a very nice roll and we expect them to be in a good position also.
Puran Sharma (Equity Analyst)
Okay, appreciate that. Just on the follow up, would getting you to the upper end of guidance require additional pricing actions from here?
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Thanks for the question. That's not one of the things that's getting us to the upper levels of the pricing range. We clearly have a lot of things going for us, you know, with continued underlying strength in the business. But really to get to the upper end of the range we're looking at food service over delivery continued Turkey strength. Obviously volume and mix upside can provide some benefit and then the commodity markets are going to play a big role if we're going to get to the upside of the range. If they come in lower than forecasted, those are really the driving forces of it. We do also have some wraparound pricing as would impact it, but that's not a driving factor to get to the top end of the range.
Puran Sharma (Equity Analyst)
Okay, appreciate the color. Thank you very much.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from Peter Galbelwood, bank of America. Your line is now open.
Peter Galbelwood (Equity Analyst)
Hey guys, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I know we've spent a lot of time talking about gross margin in the quarter, but Paul and John and Jeff, I think it might be helpful to kind of bridge the upside relative to your expectations. Is there anything you can do to kind of help us understand the positive tailwind impact of the manufacturing in the quarter? Maybe what that was worth. I know you said logistics were a headwind, but then I think you also said they were maybe less of a headwind than you would initially anticipated. So just any dynamics in the bridge for the quarter itself I think would be helpful.
John Gingo (President)
Yeah, sure. Peter, this is John. I'll kind of walk through the second quarter a little bit and obviously we were pleased overall with the second quarter results. As a headline, we would say strong execution, but across the levers we've been talking about for the year. So, you know, clearly strong top line performance is where it starts. And we did see that across the company. We saw net sales growth in all three of our operating segments. Top line has been a consistent theme for us over the past six quarters, as Jeff mentioned earlier. But Q2 was another strong top line quarter. On top of that, there were three other levers that contributed that we've been discussing. Pricing is one. I mean, pricing was really important. We saw the benefits of the pricing flowing through across the businesses. That included, as I mentioned, that second wave of retail pricing that we discussed last quarter. I mentioned favorable mix at the company level. Food service is favorable mix for us. So that that nice growth number we put up in food service drives mixed benefits for the enterprise. And then within the segments, food service was driving higher margin brands. Retail was benefiting through that growth. On Jennie O. Applegate, Bacon. So, you know, we did see a lot of benefits that were helping our margins overall. And now to your question around manufacturing. Yes, manufacturing. We had a strong quarter overall. We did headline the turkey manufacturing, which was very good performance as we saw to Paul's point, very good growing conditions, strong manufacturing performance across our Turkey facilities, but we had a good manufacturing quarter overall. And then beyond those business driven results in the quarter, we did see a benefit of a discrete gain on the rabbi trust, but that was not the main driver of the performance. It truly was the business. So, you know, with all of that said, one of the reasons we feel good about the quarter is it was a challenging environment. The consumer is, you know, what I would describe as cautious. Still. We did talk about those known pressures last quarter around logistics and that was a significant year over year headwind. Although we did navigate it a little bit better than we had planned, which helped us. And then on top of all of that, the significant new headwind that popped up midway through the quarter was rising fuel costs. So with all of that said, the second quarter exceeded our expectations and importantly gives us increased confidence in achieving our full year range.
Peter Galbelwood (Equity Analyst)
Okay, thanks for that. John Paul. Maybe as a follow up, just to drill in a little bit on the inventory rebalancing. I mean this has historically been something that has happened with Hormel over the years. Just curious, kind of how we should think about the potential impact of that discrete item in 3Q both from a sales and margin perspective. Again as we kind of try to think about the EPS impact. And in light of that, I know you called out a bunch of incremental headwinds maybe into 3Q. One area where we've gotten some questions has been around pork bellies which have actually flipped, I think deflationary. And I know there's a bit of timing lag in the flow through, but maybe you can talk about just what you're seeing within the pork complex. I know there's some puts and takes there from a headwind and tailwind perspective. Thanks very much.
Paul Kinnaman (Interim Chief Financial Officer and Controller)
Thanks Peter for the question. A lot of thoughts on pack there. I'll try to go through it all, but I would characterize the inventory rebalancing as a really proactive step to better align our inventory levels across certain areas of the portfolio. Like I said, I mean I want to give some props to transform and modernize work that we've done that has enhanced our hormone production systems and how we operate our plants more efficiently. And we've also taken this integrated business planning journey and have improved that over the past six months. And so our visibility to some inventory has really improved that. We've identified these opportunities to rebalance some of our inventory. We do expect this to have a short term impact, as you noted, with lower plant utilization mainly in Q3, but I do want to just emphasize it's not wide scaling. It's really certain ambient products with longer shelf life and just think of the center of the store, canned items and Skippy to be kind of more precise. But as I said in the prepared remarks, these are targeted actions which we expect to position us better going forward on the inventory balancing. Regarding your pork bellies question, I will say that's all embedded into our guide. As you know they are lower right now, but depending on who you listen to and what you see in forecast, there's a wide range of elements here and what's going to happen over the next six to eight weeks. And so we're kind of in a wait and see model there in terms of where we at. But we do have in our guide that we expect closer to the earlier part of closer to last year in terms of the second half than where it's at in the present day market.
Peter Galbelwood (Equity Analyst)
Okay, great. Thanks very much guys.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from Max Gumport with bnp. Your line is now open.
Max Gumport (Equity Analyst)
Thanks for the. Thanks for the question. So it sounds like you've got higher logistics costs, you've got the 3Q impact coming from lower planned utilization, you had fuel costs ramp up on you in the middle of the quarter. Your tax rate is now tracking towards the higher end of the range. So headwinds that you didn't foresee at the beginning of the fiscal year. But clearly, you know, you're off to a great start for these first two quarters and you now feel like you're on track towards the upper end of the profit range. Can you just talk through a bit? How much of this is maybe some cushion and conservatism in the initial outlook you provided versus how much is coming from things really operating much better than expected, whether it's the Turkey network or other helps to profit that you are seeing. Thanks very much.
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Max, this is Jeff. I mean, you know, I think we talked to you even back when John and I were at our first call in these roles about a mentality toward look, we know we need to set realistic plans and deliver those plans. It's always a bit of a balance between you want to stretch some so that the team is reaching toward a somewhat aggressive goal. On the other hand, you want it to be realistic. And so we talked even on that call about that. The realistic timing for over the long run in this company should be our algorithm. It should be the 2 to 3% top line, the 5 to 7% bottom line. And so indeed when we came out with our plan for this year, it encompassed those Ranges actually was maybe slightly on the higher side for the, for the bottom line, making up for some of the one time things we had last year. So as the years played out, I mean for the first two quarters on the bottom line, we have indeed been a little bit ahead of what we had initially anticipated. And yes, we think that's been almost all performance based. We're enjoying some strong momentum still on the sales side, we had a chance with a new year to kind of reassess where do we want to put our marketing and trade push and we're able to push it toward higher margining items. We had the benefit of the SGA items that we've talked about that we said, hey look, we're doing those at the end of the day, you know, the fiscal year, if you will, but they really didn't even kick in until the beginning of the calendar year. So that you started seeing more in Q2. And so overall I think it's been mostly performance based. We probably did start, we are going to start from a more somewhat more conservative standpoint. You know, we view it as much more important to deliver performance than to promise performance.
Max Gumport (Equity Analyst)
Yes, I think that's a very prudent position to take. And then just to follow up on two of the discrete items you've called out, I'm just hoping for some quantification. So first on the Turkey network benefits that you're seeing, can you quantify just roughly how much of a help that was to profit in 2Q and then what's embedded in your in your second half
Paul Kinnaman (Interim Chief Financial Officer and Controller)
It sounds like maybe a bit of reversion given that was partially helped by weather. And then on the lower plant utilization that you expect to see in 3Q, can you just quantify how large of an impact that is to trough it? Thanks very much. I'll leave it there. Yeah, Max, this is Paul. We're not going to quantify those dollar amounts. As you noted, the turkey manufacturing network did help us here in Q3, driven by weather and a lot of good performance as well, wait and see attitude on that in terms of what happens in Q3 and Q4 and the inventory rebalancing to what I said earlier, there is a, there is an impact here in Q3. It's embedded within our guide. We think that guide reflects the risks and opportunities in today's environment.
Max Gumport (Equity Analyst)
Okay, thanks very much.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from Michael Avery with Piper Sandler. The line is now open.
Michael Avery (Equity Analyst)
Thank you. Good morning. Just wanted to unpack food service a little bit. Traffic is obviously down Pretty broadly, but you had volumes up. How much is channel mix share gains? Maybe can you just, you know, help us understand what some of the key drivers are there?
John Gingo (President)
Good morning, Michael, this is John. Thank you for the question. Yeah, I mean, we feel good about our food service business. I will say that the traffic remains challenged in many parts of the away from home channels and our business has remained quite resilient despite that traffic softness. Putting up the 7% sales growth with some volume growth as well is a good quarter for us if you look at the environment, kind of how we approach food service. We've talked about this before, but our direct sales team, who work very closely with our operator partners, really what I would call, you know, in collaboration and problem solving mode, allows us to build business and gain business even when traffic is down. And that can take, you know, the form of helping solve problems with kitchen shortcuts, labor savings. It can take the form of affordable options that help, you know, control prices on the menu. And it still takes the form of innovation. And I mentioned in my earlier remarks the Calabrian pizza toppings which we are executing across both pepperoni and sausage. That's an example of bringing news to an operator to drive traffic and actually drive interest in the menu. So that partnership we have in the kitchens with the operators and food service and our direct sales team truly does allow us to continue to build our business even when our operator partners are challenged. And so part of it is that, and then the other part, to your point, is we do have very broad based channel coverage. And so when we see pockets of growth, we can redirect our resources to the places where we see opportunity, whether that's commercial or non commercial, whether it's down the street or it's national chain, we do have flexibility to flex where the growth and pockets of growth are happening from a channel perspective too. So we continue to be confident in our food service team in their ability to execute and perform deliver results. Obviously, you know, to Paul's point, if we were to see some, some tailwinds behind the food service traffic across channels, that would be some upside for us. But right now we're planning to deliver with the environment we're operating within.
Michael Avery (Equity Analyst)
Okay, that's helpful. And just to follow up on guidance, I know a lot of it's been covered pretty well. But when you laid out, you know, some of these key factors for 3Q it sounds like the inventory rebalancing should largely or maybe nearly completely be done in the third quarter. But you also cited the full quarter of Higher fuel pressure. I guess just Looking ahead to 4Q, obviously you expect a rebound and you know, the kind of entirety or very close to it of the second half's growth to come there. Is your operating assumption relief on fuel cost pressure or how do you think about kind of maybe just what's closer to the end of the year and some of the assumptions there?
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
This is Jeff. I'll be happy to answer that. I mean really, Q4 will be benefited by. First of all, we had some one time events last year in Q4 that we're certainly hoping are not going to repeat. Secondly, we feel that the overall momentum of the business should be able to shine through better during that timeframe. And then third, we do feel there will be some, you know, somewhat less impact maybe from all three of those factors, from fuel, from the operational slowdowns and from the commodity markets. But we're not banking on a huge improvement in that baked in the number, but one way or the other. Yeah, I mean by holding our range, we're clearly signaling that we expect a double digit bottom line increase in Q4.
Michael Avery (Equity Analyst)
Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from Ben Thurer with Barclays. Your line is now open.
Ryan
Hey, this is Ryan. I'm from Bend today. Thanks for taking our questions. So first, you called out earlier in your remarks some structural weakness in certain retail brands and categories. Can you expand a little bit on the puts and takes of how that's impacting your retail results, especially in context of the manufacturing gains and the other benefits you've talked about?
John Gingo (President)
Yeah, sure, sure. Thanks Ryan, for the question. So we, we had another, you know, quarter of consumption growth in total on retail. And I mentioned, you know, we were up over 1% in dollar consumption. That was headlined by 3% growth across our priority brands in total. So we feel good about that. That being said, to get, you know, clicking on all cylinders in retail, there are a couple of businesses that we are dialed in on focused, improving performance. Planters is one of those businesses. I would say, you know, Planters didn't fully meet our expectations for the quarter. And while peanuts are performing well, some of the more expensive nut types like cashews have not been performing as well. We mentioned that dynamic last quarter that consumers have been trading out of Cashews, which saw some significant price increases precipitated by commodity inflation over the past year. And so we're dialing in, you know, in terms of our overall plans with Planters. A couple of things to note, you know, we continue to invest in the brand and our innovation as we've talked about previously. But we are adjusting aggressively our go to market plans to take advantage of our broad portfolio. We feel very good about the franchise in total, but we need to adjust our plans. And so I'll just call out two specific enterprise focus areas where we're dialing in to strengthen performance on Planters. One is revenue growth management work. So we are enhancing promotions where warranted. You know, getting very dialed in through data and analytics on that as well as developing new pack size strategies which should be helpful for us to manage again those nut type and portfolio dynamics. And then the second area, big focus for us is digital investment where we're dialing into lower funnel tactics including investing into enhanced capabilities and efforts in E commerce. So we continue to love the planters business, the macro opportunity around substantial snacking. But certainly there has been some volatility across the portfolio driven by commodity dynamics. And so we're dialing up our game to address that. And then the second business I would call out is Skippy. So Skippy had a softer first half of the year in terms of consumption. You'll recall that at the very end of last year we announced that we had a fire at our Little Rock facility. We rebounded from that fire very quickly, went back into full supply. But we did make a decision in the immediate aftermath of the fire to be conservative with our customers and pull some first half promotions. And so we've been working our way through some darkness in terms of promotions. We are now fully back in business. The back half is loaded up, we're back on the front foot with Skippy. And in fact the latest four weeks of consumption data which we just saw, which are now bringing us into Q3, show a significant improvement in SCPI's consumption. So we feel good about that. We are confident in our ability to continue to drive demand on the business and we feel very good overall about the execution and supply chain behind that.
Ryan
Thanks. And a quick follow up, slightly related to that, you talked about last quarter that you expect higher marketing expenses and investments on the year, but again this quarter it was a touch lower compared to last year. So are you expecting then a pretty big step up in marketing expenses in the back half, especially as some of these brands try to come back online?
John Gingo (President)
Yeah, good question. So what I would say is yeah, the second quarter we did spend a little bit less. That was primarily driven by a shift of timing of events in our international business. Our focus with our advertising investment continues to be to focus on our priority brands and Retail. And so, you know, if you think about it from a mixed perspective, if you think about it from a consumer opportunity perspective, and where we have the strongest, clearest demonstrated ROIs is how we're focusing our investments in the back half. We do in total for the full year still expect to deliver higher spending in terms of year over year versus prior year on advertising. So that that will play through in the back half in our plans. That being said, we also several months ago announced that we had brought a new enterprise wide chief marketing officer into the organization. He now has a few months under his belt. It's been very helpful for him to kind of identify some of the spending opportunities we have to get even more out of our marketing investments. So we're excited about the plans we have in the back half to drive those brands and businesses with even higher return on investment.
Ryan
Thanks for the color. Appreciate it. I'll pass it on then.
OPERATOR
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press Star one. Your next question comes from Heather Jones with Heather Jones Research. Your line is now open.
Heather Jones (Equity Analyst)
Thank you for the follow up. I just wanted to go back to a comment that you made on Bellies and just again wanting to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly. It sounds like your second half outlook assumes relatively flat year on year with fiscal 25. And if that's correct, then when you're saying you're tracking towards the upper half of your guidance, that assumes the flat year on us Dele. Did I understand you correctly?
Paul Kinnaman (Interim Chief Financial Officer and Controller)
Yep, Heather, you heard that exactly right.
Heather Jones (Equity Analyst)
Okay, wonderful. Thank you.
OPERATOR
There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Jeff Edinger for closing remarks.
Jeff Ettinger (Interim Chief Executive Officer)
Well, we really appreciate everyone's questions and for your engagement today, I'll just close the call. By bringing everything back to what we heard throughout the call, we delivered a strong second quarter with growth from each segment and support from our supply chain. We have taken meaningful actions to strengthen the business pimple flying where needed, improving how we operate and sharpening our focus. And we are executing with discipline on pricing, costs and how we prioritize. That's what's been driving the performance you're seeing today and we think it's positioning us well for what's ahead. Thank you again for your time and have a great day.
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