Anaergia (TSX:ANRG) held its first-quarter earnings conference call on Wednesday. Below is the complete transcript from the call.
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Summary
Energia reported a 122% year-over-year increase in total revenue for Q1 2026, reaching $55.2 million, with a 135% increase in gross profit.
The company achieved positive adjusted EBITDA for the third consecutive quarter, at $1.1 million, marking a $5 million improvement from the previous year.
Energia's revenue backlog grew 32% year-over-year, now standing at $265 million, driven by strong contract awards across key markets.
Strategically, Energia entered the hydro-treated vegetable oil market and received approval for its SoCal biomethane facility under California's SB 1440 program.
Operational highlights include progress in Spain with biomethane facilities and achieving a negative carbon intensity score for the Rhode Island facility, enhancing its revenue potential.
Management remains optimistic about continued growth, emphasizing a capital-light, IP-rich business model and highlighting significant pipeline opportunities valued at around $1 billion.
Full Transcript
OPERATOR
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us and welcome to the Energia first quarter 2026 conference call and webcast. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand. If you have dialed in to today's call, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute. I will now hand the conference over to Darlene Webb, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Darlene Webb, Investor Relations
Thank you very much, operator, and good morning everyone. On today's call, we'll be discussing Energia's earnings for the first quarter of 2026, which ended March 31, 2026. If you're following along with our slide deck, which is available here or on our live streaming webcast, or you can also access it here directly from the investors section of our website. My comments relate specifically to slides one through three. On slide two, you'll see that on today's call, I am joined by Mr. Assaf, Energia's Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Greg Wolf, Energia's Chief Financial Officer, and Dr. Yaniv Sherson, Energia's Chief Operating Officer. Before beginning our formal remarks, we would like to refer you to slide 3 of the presentation which contains a caution on forward-looking information and a note on the use of non-GAAP measures. Listeners are reminded, as always, that today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements that reflect current views with respect to future events.
Any such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. Energia does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements except as may be required by applicable laws. Listeners are urged to review the full discussion of risk factors in the company's prospectus that is filed with the Canadian securities regulators. You may now move on to slide four and with that, turn the call over to Assaf.
Assaf (Chief Executive Officer)
Thank you, Darlene. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. We are now on slide five. I want to start with where Energia stands at the close of the first quarter. Almost two years ago, we shifted the company to a capital-light business model. The model is built on a clear set of execution pillars: a focus on capital sales, a stronger balance sheet, operational efficiency, strategic partnerships, and geographic expansions. In the first quarter of 2026, every one of those pillars is delivering.
We are now on slide 6. Total revenue grew 122% year over year. Gross profit grew 135%. Adjusted EBITDA was positive for the third consecutive quarter and revenue backlog stood at $265 million. Greg will walk you through the financial detail. Two items in Q1 marked important milestones for the company. We are now on slide 7. First, we entered the hydro-treated vegetable oil market, a new vertical for Energia. HVO is renewable diesel made from waste oils and fats, and the potential is significant.
Second, our SoCal biomethane facility was approved as the first project to deliver under California SB 1440, the state long-term Regulated Procurement Program. Yaniv will take you through both of these developments along with the rest of the operation. The broader environment is moving in our favor. We are now on slide 8. Demand for renewable natural gas is expanding across our key geographies as energy security becomes a dominant policy theme in Europe, North America, and Asia.
That demand is coming from large private investors, corporate developers, and utilities in our largest markets, and regulators are reinforcing it with long-term progress. Next slide. What sets Energia apart is our depth of intellectual property and experience, hundreds of active and pending patents, and hundreds of reference facilities across 18 countries. Capital-light, IP-rich, backed by long-term demand. That is Energia. Today, after Greg and Yaniv have completed their sections, I will return to discuss what comes next.
Greg, over to you.
Greg Wolf, Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Assaf. Good morning everyone. We are excited to report another quarter of continuous progress. As Assaf mentioned, Q1 was our third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. Let me take you through our financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2026. Revenue for Q1 2026 was $55.2 million, an increase of 122% or $30.3 million compared to $24.9 million in Q1 2025. Growth was led by our capital sales business with continued strong performance from EMEA and North America where we are seeing consistent demand and repeat business.
Gross profit for Q1 2026 was $12.7 million, an increase of 135% from $5.4 million in Q1 2025. In the quarter, gross margins were 23%, an improvement from 21.7% in Q1 2025. Improvement in year-over-year gross margin reflects the continued mix shift towards capital sales and O&M agreements. I would note that our gross margins in Q1 2026 were impacted by approximately $2 million as one of our build-own-operate assets, the Rhode Island Bioenergy Facility, continues to ramp up production since our plant reset late last year.
Absent this plant's production ramp-up process, our gross margins and our adjusted EBITDA margin would have been 3.6 percentage points higher. We expect steady operational improvements at this facility throughout the year and Yaniv will touch on our improved progress as well as the recently announced CI Score approval for the facility which will increase Rhode Island's top-line revenue with revenue more than doubling in the quarter compared to last year.
In the same period, our SG&A expenses substantially improved in Q1 2026 with a decrease of 18% or $3.1 million to $14.1 million compared to $17.2 million in Q1 2025. We continue to run the business with discipline while ensuring we have the right structure to support growth. Turning to the bottom line, net loss for Q1 2026 was $4.4 million compared to a net loss of $5.9 million in Q1 2025, a 26% improvement year over year. Q1 2025 benefited from a $6 million grant income recognized.
Excluding the $6 million grant income recognized in Q1 2025, the net loss improvement in Q1 2026 would be $7.5 million period over period or a 63% improvement. Now moving to adjusted EBITDA. Adjusted EBITDA for Q1 2026 was positive $1.1 million compared to a negative $3.9 million in Q1 2025. That is an improvement of $5 million or approximately 127% year over year. As I noted earlier, excluding the Rhode Island build-own-operate gross margin loss of approximately $2 million, adjusted EBITDA would have been $3.1 million or a 5.6% adjusted EBITDA margin.
This is the third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA and it reflects the consistency we said we were building toward. Turning to the revenue backlog on slide 12, during the first quarter we signed over $54 million in new contract awards across our key markets. Our new contract bookings net of strong contract revenue execution in Q1 2026 increased our revenue backlog from year-end 2025 to $265 million at 03-31-2026. This is also an increase of 32% compared to Q1 2025.
Revenue backlog, as a reminder, our revenue backlog rule is to include only signed contract work in our capital sales segments of the reporting as of the reporting date and account conservatively only three years of long-term O&M contracts, even though those contracts are typically five to 15 years in duration. Beyond our existing backlog, we have a large pipeline of capital, sales, and other new opportunities across our key markets. As each individual project is signed, they will be moved to our backlog.
Moving to the credit agreement. Subsequent to quarter-end, we announced a $20 million credit agreement with National Bank of Canada with an accordion feature that can increase the facility up to $30 million over the next year. This facility strengthens our financial flexibility as we convert our growing revenue backlog through the P&L. We're now moving to slide 13. We are proud of the accomplishments we have made to date. To summarize, Q1 reflects what the financial pillars of our strategy look like in execution: capital sales driving revenue growth, operational efficiency increasing gross margins, and reducing SG&A expense.
Our newly announced credit facility strengthening our financial flexibility. And we delivered our third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. With that, I'll turn it over to Yaniv.
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Thank you, Greg. Thank you, Greg. I'll walk you through how the business performed operationally in the first quarter. The strategy we set out nearly two years ago rests on a set of pillars: a focus on capital sales, a stronger balance sheet, operational efficiency, strategic partnerships, and geographic expansion. Greg has just walked you through how the financial pillars are showing up in our results. I will cover the operational side. Q1 produced four developments that show those pillars producing results in the field.
Framework conversion is where our capital-light model becomes most visible, and it's materializing in Spain. We signed our 184 million Canadian Spanish Framework Agreement in 2025 covering more than 15 biomethane facilities. In January of this year, we began activities on two of those facilities, Dandujar and Arjona. Projects are being developed with DB Andalusia, a special purpose company developed renewable projects in South Spain. Each facility will convert roughly 100,000 tons per year of olive, pumice, and agricultural residue abundant in southern Spain into renewable biomethane.
These are the second and third projects under the framework, with more behind them. Italy continues to deliver on two fronts. Our existing customer base is expanding scope on contracts already underway, and the broader market is being supported by sustained policy tailwinds. In March, we signed amendments to three previously announced contracts with QGM covering biomethane production facilities in Ostelato, Copparo, and Dorovere in Northern Italy.
As a result of those amendments, our total contract value with QGM increased from 68 million to 85 million, an increase of 17 million. Italy's national Recovery and Resilience Plan continues to support biogas project investments with 15-year government-backed tariffs and capital grants. We're well positioned in that market through both QGM and our broader Italian customer base. Moving to slide 15, in February, we entered into a contract with CR Evolution, short for Circular Renewable Evolution.
It's a first-of-its-kind project for degumming soil recovery. It's a 13 million demonstration-scale facility and represents our entry into an important adjacent market. The technical context matters here. CR Evolution is building a bio-refinery to produce hydro-treated vegetable oil or HVO, a clean liquid fuel used in diesel, aviation, and other applications where high energy density is required. The HVO process produces a waste byproduct called degumming soil, a clay-based material that's typically landfilled after external treatment.
It's a problem the industry hasn't had a clean answer for. Our system, developed by our R&D team, addresses that problem in two ways. It recovers and regenerates the degumming soil for reuse, which removes the disposal burden, and it produces renewable natural gas as a clean energy byproduct, which adds a revenue stream. Our scope includes our proprietary anaerobic digestion technology along with our material handling systems, which are specifically engineered to handle materials with high dry matter content and high viscosity.
That technical fit is what positioned us well for this contract. This plant unlocks a new market segment for us. More than 250 HVO plants operate globally today, and the market is projected to expand by more than 35% by 2030. It's a known industry with a known waste stream, and we have the right technology to address it. Our R&D team built that. In March, the California Public Utilities Commission conditionally approved the long-term biomethane procurement contract between our SoCal biomethane facility, a new climate, and Southwest Gas Corporation.
With this approval, our SoCal biomethane facility is set to be the first project to supply renewable natural gas under California's Senate Bill 1440 Biomethane Procurement Program. This is a significant milestone, and the significance is structural, not just contractual. SB 1440 is the first state-level RNG procurement mandate in the United States. It establishes a requirement for California's investor-owned utilities to procure RNG derived from landfill-diverted organic waste at a scale equivalent to approximately 55 SoCal biomethane-sized facilities by 2035.
We're talking about a market opportunity of 55 more plants. That is a long-term regulated demand signal in the largest gas market in North America. Our SoCal facility, located in Victorville, California, processes up to 104,000 tons of organic waste annually and injects pipeline-quality RNG into the natural gas grid. The California Public Utilities Commission approval validates our model of retrofitting existing wastewater infrastructure to scale RNG supply from organic waste.
ANRG is the first company approved to deliver under that model in California, and we expect many more to follow. Next slide, I'll now turn to our Build, Own, Operate platform consisting of five assets: the Rhode Island Bioenergy facility in Rhode Island, the Charlotte Bioenergy facility in North Carolina, and SoCal biomethane, Mojave, and Escondido Bioenergy facilities in California. The California assets continue to perform profitably. At SoCal biomethane, the SB 1440 approval I described earlier is a major development this quarter, supporting long-term profitability.
At our Charlotte facility, the asset remains idle as we continue to assess the best path forward for that site. The Rhode Island Bioenergy facility continues stable operations, converting food waste across New England into renewable natural gas that is supplied to Irving Oil under a long-term offtake agreement. The facility continued its ramp-up in Q1. Production has improved year over year, approaching our targets. Recently, the facility's negative CI score was approved by the Environment and Climate Change Canada Agency, marking the first time a US plant has been approved with a negative carbon intensity score.
The CI score will improve financial performance, enabling monetization of carbon credits in the CFR program, resulting in an approximate 30% increase in gas offtake price. Our focus going forward is on three things: operational improvements at the facility itself, feedstock management to ensure consistent input, and process optimization to maximize production. We're seeing measurable progress in each. We expect performance to improve progressively throughout the year.
RBF is an important asset, and our focus is on bringing it to its full operating potential. What ties these four developments together is that they're not isolated wins. They're evidence that the platform we built is doing what we designed it to do in markets where the conditions are now lining up to support it. Globally, RNG incentive programs continue to accelerate: Italy's National Recovery and Resilience Plan, the UK's Green Gas Support Scheme, Canada's Clean Fuel Regulation, and now California's SB 1440.
Each of these creates structural multi-year demand for the kind of RNG infrastructure we deliver. And the broader push for domestic energy security is reinforcing this policy direction in nearly every market we operate in. Capital sales are converting framework agreements into firm revenue. Strategic partnerships are deepening into expanded multi-project programs and reaching into new verticals. Geographic expansion is deepening our presence in Spain and Italy, our largest European markets, and operational efficiency is what's letting us deliver on all of that without expanding the cost base.
The strategy is demonstrating success, and we expect it to continue. With that, I'll turn it back to Assaf.
Assaf (Chief Executive Officer)
Thank you, Yaniv, and thank you, Greg. We are now on Slide 18. The first quarter of 2026 marks our third quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. Revenue grew 122%. Capital sales grew 187%. Our revenue backlog stands at $265 million. Those numbers tell you that the model is working. But what they do not tell you is what we plan to do with it. So let me speak to that first. I want our shareholders to understand that Q1 will not be the high point. It is a step.
The work we have signed, the contracts in execution, and the projects in the pipeline are larger than what we delivered in the quarter you just heard about. We expect capital sales to continue. We expect backlog to continue to grow. We expect revenue to continue to build behind it. The model is repeatable. That is the point of a capital-light model. You do it again and again and again. Second, I want to underscore where the demand is coming from.
It is not coming from one customer or one country. It is coming from large private investors, regulators, government, and utilities in our large markets who are setting policy on the long-term time zone. That kind of demand does not turn on and off during a quarter. It compounds. We are positioned in every one of those markets with technology, with reference plans, and with an execution team already on the ground. Third, I want to talk about discipline.
Less than two years ago, we made hard decisions about what this company was going to be and what it was not going to be. We are still making those decisions. We are still focused on margin, on cash, and on every one of the pillars Greg, Yaniv, and I have walked you through this morning. Nothing about that focus is going to change in the quarters ahead. I want to thank our shareholders for staying with us through the work it took to get here. I want to thank our employees across the world for the quarter you delivered.
And I want to thank our partners and our customers for the trust they have placed in this company. We are not finished. We are not at the end. We are merely at the beginning. Darlene, over to you for questions.
Darlene Webb, Investor Relations
Thank you, Assaf. Operator, we may now open the call to questions.
OPERATOR
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand. Now, if you have dialed in to today's call, please press Star 9 to raise your hand and Star 6 to unmute. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Ann Lee, Wood National Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Ali
Hi, good morning. Thank you. This is Ali on for Baltic CIDU at National Bank. Thanks for taking my questions. So maybe just a two-part question on capital sales revenue cadence. Given the better-than-expected execution in Q1, could you help us frame how much of the revenue outperformance reflected perhaps accelerated project timings versus a more steady step-up in execution capacity? And two, as we think about the remainder of the year, how should we think about the quarterly cadence of backlog conversion, particularly across the largest European projects currently underway?
Assaf (Chief Executive Officer)
Yaniv, you want to take it?
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Yeah, I think we're... Well, you know what, the numbers that Greg has gone over are showing that our backlog continues to grow, and we're seeing continued cadence of bookings year over year. We have inter-quarter shifts with timing maybe shifting from one quarter to the next. But generally speaking, the trend we've seen consistently year over year is a substantial increase in backlog as we compare 24 to 25 and now entering into 26. As far as our recognition, most of our projects are a year and a half to two years of execution to fully deliver for the most part.
And within our O&M segment, as noted before, we're accounting for three years of the backlog in our figures, although those operating contracts tend to be typically much longer in duration, five, ten years, or longer.
Ali
Okay, no thank you, that's helpful. And I just want to ask a couple of follow-ups too on the O and M service side of things. Revenue was down modestly year over year due to lower fuel services activity in North America as reported. Could you help us understand whether that sub-net was primarily timing related in nature or reflective of resources being redeployed to larger capital sales execution opportunities? And as we think about the balance of 2026, do you still expect the O and M business to resume to a more stable growth trajectory?
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Yeah, absolutely. The O and M business will still remain a pillar of our revenue growth as we move forward. You know, the shifts in the figures are adjustments in sizing, mostly timing related. In our capital-light strategy, we are shifting risk out of our operating agreements and as a result, there's variability. Some of our agreements have pass-through costs or cost-plus situations. And so there may be shifts in revenue that may go down over a quarter to quarter, but that's simply a timing matter on when expenses hit and passing through costs up to our customers.
The laser focus going forward is our capital sales. The majority of our revenue is driven by the capital sales segment, which is the engine to our business. Our operating agreements, we are working on growing that in the future. It's often an add-on service to clients who purchase a system from us and would like to maintain a long-term relationship with us involved either through service or operations. And so a number of our clients that we're working with now, we anticipate having incremental operating contracts again in an asset-light model where we're not assuming commodity or volatility risk in our agreements.
Ali
No thanks.
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Yeah, I guess I would just note that as we continue the capital sales and we're growing that faster than any other segment that we have, the O and M side of the business, as your question was around, will continue to grow as well as we complete projects. You know, the demand for us to do O and M at the end of the project cycle is there. So we expect that to continue to grow but as a percentage of our total because cap sales is so much larger and growing so much faster.
It will continue to grow as a segment of an overall business and profitably. It's just the cap sales is just going to grow a lot faster in the next several years.
Ali
Thank you, that's very helpful. And lastly, congrats on the news yesterday with the Canadian CFR negative CI approval for the Rhode Island facility. Could you discuss how meaningful that could become from a monetization perspective? Should we think about that primarily as a margin enhancement opportunity for the BOO segment or could it potentially influence how you approach future RNG development more broadly?
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Well, more broadly speaking, it's a validation and market advantage that we bring to our clients. Even if clients are a capital sale client where we won't be owning the assets, a number of our clients are monetizing or basing their pro formas off CFR participation. The expertise that we have by being, as mentioned, the first US facility to achieve a negative CI score is value-add to our clients to assist them with navigating the regulatory process and in participating in monetizing in that program to an optimal level.
What it does mean for the asset is a top-line revenue enhancement. The facility can now participate in monetizing CFR credits. It's a challenging market to get a CI score approved under the regulatory timeline, which is long. And so this is really a breakthrough moment through what's been a very challenging and long process for review and approval. Financially, the price will be variable as carbon prices are shifting in that market, although quite high.
But we anticipate a roughly 30% increase in the gas sale price as a result and further enhancements in the future as we convert to a permanent CI score as the next round.
Ali
That's awesome. Thank you. Appreciate it, Kyler. I'll jump back to the queue.
OPERATOR
Your next question comes from the line of Craig Irwin with Roth Capital Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Andrew
Hey guys, it's Andrew on for Craig. Congrats on the strong results and thanks for taking my questions. So the first one for me, it was great to see adjusted EBITDA positive again, I think for the third consecutive quarter. As you guys kind of continue to scale in the business, can you talk about where you guys see areas where you can continue to drive operating leverage, whether it may be continued reductions in SG&A or margin improvements or maybe elsewhere?
Greg Wolf, Chief Financial Officer
Greg, yeah, I would say for us we continue to look at projects on our capital sales business. We have obviously very nice margins in our capital sales business and our O and M business. I think we'll see some continued advantage as noted in the release. You know, as we get our build-own-operate facilities such as Rhode Island. The other build-own-operates are profitable good facilities and Rhode Island is a great facility as well. As you mentioned, we have now the CI score.
Obviously, that was a drag on our margin and our EBITDA for this quarter. But we look as the remaining of the year runs out that's going to be an improvement in both gross margin percentages and adjusted EBITDA for us. So that's an area that we are definitely focused on making sure that that gets turned around as the year continues on. And so that's going to be a margin enhancement for us. But you know the market, because of our technology platform, we have a lot of leverage in the market.
We are the leader in this space. Our clients come to us because we know how to get it done. We've been doing it for two decades and you know, we continue to execute the projects at the margins that we go out at and we certainly have a lot of opportunities to grow the top line and SG&A being down too, you know, as we continue to look at SG&A, lowering the cost there as much as we possibly can. But as we grow the top line to different levels, everything's going to be falling to the bottom line from a gross margin perspective I guess is the way I would think about it.
Andrew
Great. Appreciate the detail there. And then second one for me, I saw the IWMF project in Singapore is 80% complete now. Can you just kind of talk about what it'll take to get that project across the finish line? And secondly, once the project is completed, does that kind of open up doors to new relationships and other projects within the region?
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Yeah, absolutely. The project is continuing to execute per plan. It's a large contract with a multi-year execution timeline. And so we're continuing to progress execution per plan on schedule and per budget as executed originally. The significance of the site is material for us. The client is a globally recognized top-tier utility and this will be the largest facility in Singapore of its kind. So the association and having the reference with the pubs is going to bring a lot of attention and clearly having successful reference with top clients is a key establishment of trust and confidence in converting our pipeline and other clients to make selections to go with our technical solutions. So we do anticipate it to be a tailwind and a motivator unlocking more of our municipal pipeline in Asia and to help accelerate other projects to a go with successful model.
Andrew
Great. Well, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the continued progress.
OPERATOR
And reminder. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand using the button at the bottom of your screen. If you have dialed in to today's call, please press Star9 to raise your hand and Star6 to unmute. Your next question comes from the line of Donna Jello Volpe with Beacon Securities. A kind reminder to press Star six to unmute. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Donna Jello Volpe
Hey, good morning guys. Congratulations on the quarter and receiving that negative carbon intensity score for the Rhode Island facility. I guess just looking for a little bit more granularity here. Understanding that the facility is progressing through operational ramp-up. What's the expected timeline for full ramp-up? I guess if we could quantify it on a quarterly basis and then when we can expect positive contribution to the overall earnings profile.
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
We're continuing to work on the improvements in the plant mostly on the feedstock side, which has been improving on a consistent basis annually. We have a goal to be able to hit profitability by year-end. Part of this is going to be timing with enhanced credit monetization, some government incentives as well that we're working on at the federal level, domestically in the US, and working with our feedstock suppliers to sort of optimize the mix going forward.
So we're executing very focused on this plan. Make the plant contribute around the end of the year is our target and our goal and we expect to have improvements quarter over quarter towards that mark.
Donna Jello Volpe
Okay, thank you. And then just looking at the O and M side of things, I'm just wondering if there's kind of a lag from the capital sales because we've seen capital sales growing significantly. I'm just wondering how we should look at O and M moving forward if we treat it kind of as like a year lag to the rising capital sales.
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
That's about right. I mean, you know, the O and M start after the cap sales complete. So we may have a commitment with an O and M contract, but revenue contribution from that O and M won't start until the operations start right when we're done building the plant. So typically a year and a half to two years to build a plant, and then that's when the O and M contribution initiates. So that's probably the best way to think about the sequence and timing.
Donna Jello Volpe
Okay, perfect. Thank you. And then final one for me, just looking at the cash sitting at about 22 million exclusive, including the restricted cash. Just wondering what some of your minimum liquidity targets are and what the expected cash usage should be over the next few quarters.
Greg Wolf, Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, Don, Angela, we don't give guidance on that, but clearly, you know, we're a growing business quite substantially and we expect to continue to grow throughout the year, both in revenues and our backlog. So as we move forward operationally, we now have a new line of credit. And so I think that's very strategic for us to have that in place for flexibility, for financial flexibility. But from a cash basis, I think we'll continue to run it, run around these areas that it's been at in the past.
And so, you know, and keeping everything as tight as possible. We obviously are laser-focused on collections, laser-focused on operations, and all of our projects are cash flow positive from day one throughout the duration of the project. So I would just note that we are very comfortable in the position where we're at today and on a forward basis.
Donna Jello Volpe
Okay, great. Thanks for answering my questions. I'll hop back in the queue.
OPERATOR
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PO Frat
Thanks for taking my question. I had two questions. One is on the backlog. What do you expect to realize or burn off in the backlog? You know that 265. What do you think you burn off for the rest of the year?
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
You know, there's, well, there's different, different projects are in there of course, different, different timing when we signed it. Right. So it's not an exact, you know, science to say it take X number of months over divided by the backlog. Right. Certain projects are in the middle stages which are, work is more aggressively occurring on the beginning and the end of the projects. You know, it's a ramp up and ramp down is what you have in project and you know, construction work and contract work.
But, but that said, we expect, we expect this year, not with any, we're not giving any guidance, but we expect obviously year over year growth in revenue and year over year growth and backlog on a full year basis. So take it, take it as it is. But we will, that means that our sale, our sales have to be, continue to be strong, which we expect and what we know we have in our pipeline and our execution has to be there as well. Q1 is typically seasonally a little bit slower in the revenue side just because of weather, weather constraints in some areas.
But we expect the year to continue to ramp up and be, be ahead of the past. So that's what I would.
Andrew
Great, that's helpful. And then could you talk about your pipeline? You know, the pipeline numbers are just, at least in the presentations I've looked at are, you know, huge, as probably an understatement. Can you talk about the pipeline in the context of what you think might be decided or you know, move forward in 2026, maybe 2027? I mean, are we talking about potential projects in the 500 million range or, you know, in total or if you could just give me some framing on what, you know, how you, how you're looking at that pipeline.
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Our pipeline is, our partner is big and what we put in the pipeline is, I'll give you an example. We have signed 16 contracts with Northigas, the gas company of Spain and we are working on one. So one is a backlog and the other 15 is in the pipeline. So it is a committed pipeline. Our majority of the pipeline is committed. So we see us going through the pipeline within the next 24 to 32 months.
Andrew
And I guess I may have missed it. What is your current pipeline then?
Yaniv Sherson, Chief Operating Officer
Again, our pipeline is quite big. We have 265 million dollars of backlog and we have around a billion dollar of a pipeline.
Andrew
Okay, thank you.
OPERATOR
There appears to be no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Darlene Webb for closing remarks.
Darlene Webb, Investor Relations
Thank you, Operator. And as always, thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call today. For additional information or should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact the IR team at irnergia.com or visit us online at energia.com. Thank you all again for your time today. Operator, you may now end the call.
OPERATOR
This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
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